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IAF Su-30MKIs to exercise with US, France, Saudi in Desert Flag exs in UAE

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sad to see things have come to such a state. However, NATO Mil exercises teach you more than any other. Be it China, Far East, Russia NATO TTPs are a class apart.
 

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Its just UAE playing politics by inviting Greece to irk Turkey and India to poke Pakistan. Neither Turkey nor Pakistan lose out on something, though it does give nice exposure to Indian pilots, which they desperately have been lacking in the past, and why you see IAF going to more and more of these exercises now.
I also don't see any problems per say of PAF and IAF in attendance in an international exercise to be honest. Pakistan could go in as observers as well.
 

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May be tomorrow or very soon, Russian will directly point fingers at India for compromising Moscow's front line weapon system to EU or US at large.
This isn't the first time IAF used the MKIs in exercises with a NATO country and this has been going on for a while. We exactly know what to reveal and what not to during such exercises
 

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Let them, we didn't attend Red Flag for many years but as Kaleem Sadat said at the time....we didn't fall short.
Incorrect. The lack of exercises did have a huge effect initially on PAF. With time not only Red Flag helped, but Green Flags as well. And the rest of the overseas exercises with Turkey, Middle East and China.
Its just UAE playing politics by inviting Greece to irk Turkey and India to poke Pakistan. Neither Turkey nor Pakistan lose out on something, though it does give nice exposure to Indian pilots, which they desperately have been lacking in the past, and why you see IAF going to more and more of these exercises now.
I also don't see any problems per say of PAF and IAF in attendance in an international exercise to be honest. Pakistan could go in as observers as well.
Pakistan has gone to these exercises previously before and may do so in the future.....
 

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This isn't the first time IAF used the MKIs in exercises with a NATO country and this has been going on for a while. We exactly know what to reveal and what not to during such exercises
Was that even my concern in first place? Everyone knows very well how MKI used to exercise against US/NATO jets, how those fancy cobra maneuvers were applied having nothing else in the textbook, how USAF commander then had to come to podium and expose the training quality of IAF....... everyone knows very well and that wouldn't be possible if IAF wasn't participating in so & so exercise so there is no point to remind whether IAF used MKIs in previous or any other exercise or not but speaking of revealing, the quality speaks volume when an Air Force starts asking for library tactics for its new fighter jet because they had no clue how to develop one and in the same context, there are professional they do know that how IAF been repeatedly asking aka begging for French Rafale Library especially the one where Rafale was painting F-22 in defined war scenario exercise for WVR.
 

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India is involved in international exercises,globally for two decades now

red flag in usa and cope exercises in India
almost annual.or no annual.with raf and French air forces in Europe
and constant training with Singapore f16 pilots in India..

what I wish to see is our training sharing with Israel.which I know must happen but is never discussed publicly . Israel.provides massive missle and electronic warfare technology and is first to rush aid in war.. our level with them.must be huge .

nice to see more training with Saudis and uae Qatar it's a growing partnership.

India is a regional.super power it's,shadow casts all.the way from.malacca straights,to Arabian sea..
 

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India is involved in international exercises,globally for two decades now
20 saaal ki training 20 seconds mai phuss hu gai just on one single occasion, time to revisit your training methods or the people who wasted valuable resources getting those trainings
 

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While exercises like these help in operational development, they also are excellent opportunities to get information on potential adversaries in terms of similar equipment.

- even in training mode the MKI was trailed by the French in red flag who were just sucking in the electronic emissions.

On the other hand, what can the F-16,Mirage or F-7 reveal to anyone in ATLC or red-flag ?

Or the JF-17 to the Chinese?
French always participate in these just so they can sniff others' electronic emissions.
 

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India is involved in international exercises,globally for two decades now

red flag in usa and cope exercises in India
almost annual.or no annual.with raf and French air forces in Europe
and constant training with Singapore f16 pilots in India..

what I wish to see is our training sharing with Israel.which I know must happen but is never discussed publicly . Israel.provides massive missle and electronic warfare technology and is first to rush aid in war.. our level with them.must be huge .

nice to see more training with Saudis and uae Qatar it's a growing partnership.

India is a regional.super power it's,shadow casts all.the way from.malacca straights,to Arabian sea..
then you panicked and shoot down your own heli and killed 6 of your own soliders?
 

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I believe the inclusion of the IAF automatically takes the PAF off - Pakistan doesn’t want to start training with a bloodthirsty adversary still talking about “Qatal ki raat”.

Political messaging to Pakistan & Turkey - toe the GCC line and know your place or we’ll work with your adversaries. Pretty desperate for Pakistan and Turkey to return to the fold.
Loool gcc cannot defend themselves and when poop hits the fan they run to Pakistan for defending their women. Kuwait fell in an hour to Saddams army. UAE military is as good as useless. Saudis only fight in air conditioned vehicles. I don't think Pakistan or Turkey has to worry.
 

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I believe the inclusion of the IAF automatically takes the PAF off - Pakistan doesn’t want to start training with a bloodthirsty adversary still talking about “Qatal ki raat”.

Political messaging to Pakistan & Turkey - toe the GCC line and know your place or we’ll work with your adversaries. Pretty desperate for Pakistan and Turkey to return to the fold.
You took the attempt of a blatant troll thread puking fun. It is like a kid saying look I am invited you are not lalala but here you are taking the bait which makes you worse then the troll.

Stop acting like a betrayed wife. There is nothing wrong with having multiple exercises with foreign countries and there is nothing wrong with India having exercises with allies. Stop acting like a brain dead there is no cure for that stuff
 

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India is involved in international exercises,globally for two decades now

red flag in usa and cope exercises in India
almost annual.or no annual.with raf and French air forces in Europe
and constant training with Singapore f16 pilots in India..

what I wish to see is our training sharing with Israel.which I know must happen but is never discussed publicly . Israel.provides massive missle and electronic warfare technology and is first to rush aid in war.. our level with them.must be huge .

nice to see more training with Saudis and uae Qatar it's a growing partnership.

India is a regional.super power it's,shadow casts all.the way from.malacca straights,to Arabian sea..
i think Pakistan is a regional super power, India is not there yet..
 

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