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Emergence of hypersonic becoming hostile but the world leaders intentionally and wishfully ignoring threats

Hypersonics in South Asia



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April 19, 2021

“History shows that stopping an arms race is much harder than igniting one,” R. Jeffrey Smith.

From the last few years, leading global nuclear powers have been involved in a race to develop hypersonic weapons. The United States, Russia, and China have up till now developed hypersonic weapons systems comprised mainly of hypersonic cruise missiles (HCMs) and hypersonic glide vehicles (HGVs). In South Asia, a hypersonic technology development vehicle (HSTDV) development is back in full swing where India on 7th September 2020 successfully tested a weaponizable HSTDV in the presence of Defense Minister Rajnath Singh.

The swiftness of these weapons threatens global strategic balance at large and regional security in particular. India’s most recent flight test of its hypersonic vehicle, powered by a scramjet engine, will serve as the building block for next-generation hypersonic cruise missiles.

The HSTDV indicates that New Delhi is committed to developing hypersonic technologies. This has been done with the aim of enhancing its offensive counterforce military capabilities and achieving the status of great power that is evident from the statements given by Indian Defence Minister Rajnath Singh. Due to these moves by India, hypersonic arms race is underway, challenging geopolitical order and undermining existing strategic equilibrium. It will also give rise to a new class of threat, able to penetrate most missile defenses and to further compress the timelines for a response by a nation under attack.

Regardless, the flight test is not the first step towards the realization of an indigenous hypersonic vehicle. Similar moves were made by India in 2019, where, it conducted the maiden launch of a new HSTDV, which has futuristic application for next generation missiles and aerial systems. Unlike other missile systems, hypersonic missiles travels at speeds of Mach 5 and higher - five times faster than the speed of sound (3836 mph), which is around 1 mile per second with low altitude and maneuverability of a cruise missile. In comparison, there still exist no credible detectors and interceptors to successfully shoot down hypersonic missiles. Hence, no such systems exist at present that can be used to defend against this technology.

The speed and agility of Hypersonic weapons threaten strategic stability. Interestingly, if India acquires such missile system, it would altogether bring in new security challenges to the region. It would also likely help New Delhi to opt for a pre-emptive strike against Pakistan’s strategic forces. In collaboration with Russia, India is reportedly developing Hypersonic Cruise Missile BrahMos-II which will have Mach 7 hypersonic speed.
Indian efforts to get its hypersonic weapons operationalized, will make South Asian region more vulnerable and prone to a nuclear conflict. With Indian plans of making hypersonic version of BrahMos, which will bring altogether new challenges and broader regional security concerns, it is evident that such Indian capability will help exploit the situation at LOC which is already a complex security situation in the region. For instance, Indian hypersonic capability will leave no room for credible countermeasures in case of Indian first strike which will likely be a matter of a minute or two to reach the desired target. Such scenario will ultimately lead to failure of deterrence stability. So it is a fact that the Indian push for developing hypersonic weapon system has the potential to create instability and uncertainty in a nuclear environment.

Besides, added threat is the ambiguity that accompanies hypersonic weapons systems which, further negatively affects nuclear stability in South Asia. The control on the proliferation of such system is another issue that would have larger impact keeping in mind that no international treaty or measure to limit such proliferation exist at present. India is a case in point, where, it has rejected many bilateral arms control proposals offered by Pakistan. There is no appetite in India for arms control talks with Pakistan. While India is actively consolidating its air and missile defenses, it may eventually force Pakistan to think of obtaining/developing its own hypersonic weapons.

New Delhi’s rush to introduce newer varities of cruise and ballistic missiles in the region is questionable. If inducted in regular war-fighting tech, these weapons will completely change the balance between offence and defence in the region. These circumstances of maneuverability and speed of the weapons could risk a conventional attack being mistaken for a nuclear attack, causing the incident to escalate across the nuclear threshold.

Lastly, hypersonic weapons have the potential to exacerbate dangers in South Asia. Emergence of hypersonic is becoming hostile but the world leaders intentionally and wishfully are ignoring the threats and the potential perils associated in developing such weapons. Indian continuous motivation for such technological developments will bring new security challenges capable of deteriorating an already fragile security environment.



 

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Ballistic missiles are hypersonic by definition.

The only things changing with the new tier of expressly aerodynamic missiles is that attacks can be launched from longer range while maintaining surprise for enemy AA for longer.

Basically a bum's version of short-cum-medium range ballistic missiles with some twists.
 

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ballistic missiles are hypersonic that's not new but what is new is cruise missiles with hypersonic speeds.
 

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As stated above ballistic missiles are hypersonic and travel at speeds of mach 5-7 depending on its stage.

India hs yet to test a Hypersonic Glide Vehicle. These are major threats that cant even be shot down by anti ballistic missile systems.
 

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Ballistic missiles are hypersonic by definition.

The only things changing with the new tier of expressly aerodynamic missiles is that attacks can be launched from longer range while maintaining surprise for enemy AA for longer.

Basically a bum's version of short-cum-medium range ballistic missiles with some twists.
haha no. Ballistic missiles follow a ballistic trajectory it uses earth's gravitation to achieve (sometimes hypersonic) velocity and by definition that's not the same as a hypersonic missile that has a guided flight path. You need to create such high velocity without the help of 'g' and hence it is difficult to build.

You need to read more rather than look at terminal phase velocities and assuming anything with a terminal velocity of Mach 7 is hypersonic missiles.
 

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haha no. Ballistic missiles follow a ballistic trajectory it uses earth's gravitation to achieve (sometimes hypersonic) velocity and by definition that's not the same as a hypersonic missile that has a guided flight path. You need to create such high velocity without the help of 'g' and hence it is difficult to build.

You need to read more rather than look at terminal phase velocities and assuming anything with a terminal velocity of Mach 7 is hypersonic missiles.
Do you know the difference between a ballistic missile vs a Hypersonic glide vehicle?

Do you know the meanings if a HYPERSONIC missile? By definition hypersonic is any objects which travels at mach 5 of above. Ballistic missiles travel at that speed upon rentry. Thus they could be considered hypersonic missiles.

I wont waste my time explaining the difference between a hypersonic glide vehicle vs ballistic missile. Do some research other than wion or hindustani times...
 

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Ballistic missiles are hypersonic by definition.

The only things changing with the new tier of expressly aerodynamic missiles is that attacks can be launched from longer range while maintaining surprise for enemy AA for longer.

Basically a bum's version of short-cum-medium range ballistic missiles with some twists.
Ballistic missiles are of course hypersonic based on speed.But that's not the definition of a hypersonic weapon.
Hypersonic weapons must travel primarily in the atmosphere.This is effectively immune to midcourse anti-missile interceptions. The drag and heat of atmospheric flight require more powerful engines and thermal protection materials.

So the DF17 is technically the entry-level version of a hypersonic weapon.Countries that don't have a similar DF17 weapon claim to have hypersonic weapons is just propaganda.
 

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Ballistic missiles are of course hypersonic based on speed.But that's not the definition of a hypersonic weapon.
Hypersonic weapons must travel primarily in the atmosphere.This is effectively immune to midcourse anti-missile interceptions. The drag and heat of atmospheric flight require more powerful engines and thermal protection materials.

So the DF17 is technically the entry-level version of a hypersonic weapon.Countries that don't have a similar DF17 weapon claim to have hypersonic weapons is just propaganda.
dude indians love to bs... upon which definition of the english dictionary does a hypersonic object have to travel in the atmosphere??? Hypersonic is any object traveling mach 5 or above. The idiocy of these indians will make any logic turn upside down and make your head spin.

Many ballistic missiles, rockets, mrls projectiles are traveling at hypersonic speeds upon rentry FROM THE ATMOSPHERE. Whether they are in the atmosphere or below it does not define a hypersonic weapon.The speed alone defines it.

its like saying a fighter jet traveling at mach 1+ is not supersonic unless “its in the atmosphere.”
 
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Hypersonics in South Asia



https://nation.com.pk/blogger/rabia-javed
Rabia Javed
April 19, 2021

“History shows that stopping an arms race is much harder than igniting one,” R. Jeffrey Smith.

From the last few years, leading global nuclear powers have been involved in a race to develop hypersonic weapons. The United States, Russia, and China have up till now developed hypersonic weapons systems comprised mainly of hypersonic cruise missiles (HCMs) and hypersonic glide vehicles (HGVs). In South Asia, a hypersonic technology development vehicle (HSTDV) development is back in full swing where India on 7th September 2020 successfully tested a weaponizable HSTDV in the presence of Defense Minister Rajnath Singh.

The swiftness of these weapons threatens global strategic balance at large and regional security in particular. India’s most recent flight test of its hypersonic vehicle, powered by a scramjet engine, will serve as the building block for next-generation hypersonic cruise missiles.

The HSTDV indicates that New Delhi is committed to developing hypersonic technologies. This has been done with the aim of enhancing its offensive counterforce military capabilities and achieving the status of great power that is evident from the statements given by Indian Defence Minister Rajnath Singh. Due to these moves by India, hypersonic arms race is underway, challenging geopolitical order and undermining existing strategic equilibrium. It will also give rise to a new class of threat, able to penetrate most missile defenses and to further compress the timelines for a response by a nation under attack.

Regardless, the flight test is not the first step towards the realization of an indigenous hypersonic vehicle. Similar moves were made by India in 2019, where, it conducted the maiden launch of a new HSTDV, which has futuristic application for next generation missiles and aerial systems. Unlike other missile systems, hypersonic missiles travels at speeds of Mach 5 and higher - five times faster than the speed of sound (3836 mph), which is around 1 mile per second with low altitude and maneuverability of a cruise missile. In comparison, there still exist no credible detectors and interceptors to successfully shoot down hypersonic missiles. Hence, no such systems exist at present that can be used to defend against this technology.

The speed and agility of Hypersonic weapons threaten strategic stability. Interestingly, if India acquires such missile system, it would altogether bring in new security challenges to the region. It would also likely help New Delhi to opt for a pre-emptive strike against Pakistan’s strategic forces. In collaboration with Russia, India is reportedly developing Hypersonic Cruise Missile BrahMos-II which will have Mach 7 hypersonic speed.
Indian efforts to get its hypersonic weapons operationalized, will make South Asian region more vulnerable and prone to a nuclear conflict. With Indian plans of making hypersonic version of BrahMos, which will bring altogether new challenges and broader regional security concerns, it is evident that such Indian capability will help exploit the situation at LOC which is already a complex security situation in the region. For instance, Indian hypersonic capability will leave no room for credible countermeasures in case of Indian first strike which will likely be a matter of a minute or two to reach the desired target. Such scenario will ultimately lead to failure of deterrence stability. So it is a fact that the Indian push for developing hypersonic weapon system has the potential to create instability and uncertainty in a nuclear environment.

Besides, added threat is the ambiguity that accompanies hypersonic weapons systems which, further negatively affects nuclear stability in South Asia. The control on the proliferation of such system is another issue that would have larger impact keeping in mind that no international treaty or measure to limit such proliferation exist at present. India is a case in point, where, it has rejected many bilateral arms control proposals offered by Pakistan. There is no appetite in India for arms control talks with Pakistan. While India is actively consolidating its air and missile defenses, it may eventually force Pakistan to think of obtaining/developing its own hypersonic weapons.

New Delhi’s rush to introduce newer varities of cruise and ballistic missiles in the region is questionable. If inducted in regular war-fighting tech, these weapons will completely change the balance between offence and defence in the region. These circumstances of maneuverability and speed of the weapons could risk a conventional attack being mistaken for a nuclear attack, causing the incident to escalate across the nuclear threshold.

Lastly, hypersonic weapons have the potential to exacerbate dangers in South Asia. Emergence of hypersonic is becoming hostile but the world leaders intentionally and wishfully are ignoring the threats and the potential perils associated in developing such weapons. Indian continuous motivation for such technological developments will bring new security challenges capable of deteriorating an already fragile security environment.



Any arm treaty is not possible between India and Pakistan because We have china at the east border.

We need minimum determination against the Chinese aggression with the latest hypersonic and nuclear missiles and other military types of equipment.
 

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Any arm treaty is not possible between India and Pakistan because We have china at the east border.

We need minimum determination against the Chinese aggression with the latest hypersonic and nuclear missiles and other military types of equipment.
India is barely ahead of nations like pakistan, israel, or turkey. Forget about competing with China whose military could destroy india conventially within a few days.
 
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India is barely ahead of nations like pakistan, israel, or turkey. Forget about competing with China whose military could destroy india conventially within a few days.
who said that we are going to competing with China?

I said that we need determination against the Chinese aggression with the latest hypersonic and nuclear missiles and other military types of equipment.

China will never take the risk by supporting any country during the WAR or directly get involve if knowing the fact that missiles will be raining from the air. Yeah, India will not be survived but china will also send to the stone age.

That's only the minimum determination needed against china. To make sure, if India will be destroyed then no major cities left in China as well.

This will give 100% surety that china will never go for a full flush war against India.

China whose military could destroy india conventionally within a few days. - only in dreams.
 
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who said that we are going to competing with China?

I said that we need determination against the Chinese aggression with the latest hypersonic and nuclear missiles and other military types of equipment.

China will never take the risk by supporting any country during the WAR or directly get involve if knowing the fact that missiles will be raining from the air. Yeah, India will not be survived but china will also go to the stone age.

That's only the minimum determination needed against china. To make sure, if India will be destroyed then no major cities left in China as well.

This will give 100% surety that china will never go for a full flush war against India.

China whose military could destroy india conventionally within a few days. - only in dreams.
Pakistan doesn't have wind tunnels to test these things it takes 5 years to build one they are nowhere close just like Turkey


 

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