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Huawei has lost; UK to reduce Huawei 5G network involvement to zero by 2023

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  1. F-22Raptor

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    Boris Johnson has been forced to cave into to Conservative backbench rebels opposed to the presence of Huawei in 5G networks and has drawn up plans to reduce the Chinese company’s involvement to zero by 2023.

    The prime minister’s retreat is designed to stave off what could have been an embarrassing defeat when his existing proposal to reduce Huawei to a 35% market share was to be voted on in the Commons.

    Although Johnson boasts an 80 strong majority, the number of Conservative MPs willing to rebel on the issue is now estimated to be 50 – enough in theory to defeat the government – as anti-Chinese sentiment hardens in the light of the coronavirus crisis.

    The mooted retreat will delight the White House which has been relentlessly campaigning against Huawei, but is likely to provoke a hostile reaction from Beijing, which has believed the UK was open to inward investment until now.

    The original plan was signed off as recently as January with the support of Britain’s intelligence agencies. They argued that any risks that Huawei equipment could be exploited for mass surveillance could be contained.

    But political concerns about the Chinese company lingered. The rebels forced a vote on an unrelated telecoms bill in early March, and 38 Conservative MPs voted with the opposition after Johnson refused to slash Huawei’s market share to zero.

    At the time, that was not enough to defeat No 10 but sources close to the rebels said a growing number of the 2019 intake of MPs were ready to vote against the government, in a sign of escalating geo-political tension with China.

    As the coronavirus crisis worsened, China has been accused of not being transparent about the early phases of the disease – while tension has also risen further as Beijing has recently threatened to impose a new national security law on Hong Kong.

    Senior ministers also want to reduce the UK’s economic dependance on China for essential goods in the light of the crisis and have begun to draw up “Project Defend” aimed at boosting British self sufficiency in strategic medical and technological sectors – following warnings from intelligence agencies that the UK needed to reassess its relationship with China.

    Downing Street declined to comment although sources said the reports of the Johnson plan were accurate. But last night one of the rebel leaders, Sir Iain Duncan Smith, welcome the change of heart. “This is very good news and I hope and believe it will be the start of a complete and thorough review of our dangerous dependency on China.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/technol...ced-to-reduce-huaweis-role-in-uks-5g-networks
     
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  2. jericho

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    This is big news I think. Not sure if it is final decision but if it is, that means now 4 of the five eye nations have blocked Huawei.
     
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  3. F-22Raptor

    F-22Raptor SENIOR MEMBER

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    Big loss for Huawei/China....
     
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    I recommend Edward Snowden book - Permanent Record to all the British Parliamentarian.
    Americans should read this book esp. chapter 20 onward. Heard of Stellarwind and PSP.
    I have finished the book hence I know how US works. In one word US is a fascist regime that pretends to respect human rights but they are the devil.

    It simply shocking that Americans think that they are free and have freedom.
    Strategic Communication Laboratory, another Cambridge Analytica has in fact applied psychometric to help TRUMP to win his election against Hillary.
    That is why TRUMP is the US President despite the fact he lost the popular vote by 2 million.

    The US government has practically broken every law and infringe on all Americans civil rights and the US constitution.
    It revealed to the world, US CIA's NSA darkest secret of surveillance and illegal mass collection from people around the world except for China and Russia.
    The tools they deployed is Google, Facebook, Amazon Cloud Service.
    They can even listen in to what Boris Johnson saying to his girlfriend in realtime.
    That is how they turned the Parliamentarians against Boris Johnson.
    So does the West has a really free government?
    IMO NO.
     
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  5. F-22Raptor

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    And then you have the PDF Chinese Brigade trying to convince us that their would no long term consequences from the Wuhan virus pandemic. This is just the beginning.
     
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    Pay reprashunz for Kansas virus.
     
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    wait..hold the press, Boris has a girlfriend?
     
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    China is going to suffer devastating and ever lasting consequences of the virus originated in it's lands
    &
    more importantly in how it tried to bully other nations into siding with it after the genocide it unleashed on the world.

    beginning of the end of Chinese story.
     
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    huwaei can earn from other sources instead of 5g
     
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    Really. Then we will wait and see.

    *CONFIRMED - FORT DETRICK, THE UNITED STATES BIOLOGICAL WARFARE LAB IS WHERE CORONAVIRUS ORIGINATED*

    FORCED TO SHUT DOWN WHEN VIRUSES LEAKED AUGUST 2019

    US SOLDIERS WERE INFECTED

    300 CAME TO WUHAN ON PRETENSE OF TAKING PART IN THE WORLD MILITARY COMPETITION - WON NOT ONE MEDAL

    SPREAD OUT IN WUHAN WITH SOME VISITING THE WET MARKETS

    US CONSULATE IN WUHAN FULLY EVACUATED WITH BIOWEAPON DRUMS LEFT IN GROUNDS

    WEEKS LATER FIRST VICTIM OF CORONAVIRUS APPEARED IN WUHAN

    US FOUND TO HAVE 5 STRAINS, WUHAN HAS ONE

    PROVING THE UNITED STATES IS THE ORIGIN OF THE CORONAVIRUS

    READ ON

    PS - FURTHER PROOF IN POST FOLLOWING IN COMMENT BELOW

    “As posted by June Lee:

    August 6, 2019, the US's main biological warfare lab at Fort Detrick was issued a "ceast and desist" order because of violation of safety standards and protocol, and leaks.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ak-ebola-anthrax-smallpox-ricin-a9042641.html

    August - September 2019, "statewide outbreak" of a mysterious respiratory emerged in the US, causing severe respiratory diseases in a few hundred people. This was blamed on vaping although people had been vaping for more than a decade without such outbreaks. Officials were unable to find any relation to a specific vaping device and addictive.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...ay-have-flown-under-regulatory-radar-n1046771
    https://q13fox.com/2019/09/16/a-sta...-lung-disease-linked-to-vaping-in-washington/
    https://www.usnews.com/news/healthi...-12-cases-of-severe-lung-disease-after-vaping

    August 2019 - Jan 2020, the US CDC reported that the US is gearing up for one of the worst flu seasons ever, with 12000 deaths. On 12 March 2020, the CDC director admitted that some COVID-19 deaths were misdiagnosed as the flu because COVID-19 were found when they did posthumous tests.
    https://www.healthline.com/health-news/flu-season-2020-what-to-know


    October 18 - 27, 2019, the 2019 Military World Games was held in Wuhan. The US sent a contingent of 350 athletes. They did not win any medals. The athletes toured Wuhan.

    November 2019, the Chinese press reported that five athletes who had suffered from infectious disease had been discharged from hospital.
    https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/cAB...wx_fmt=png&tp=webp&wxfrom=5&wx_lazy=1&wx_co=1
    https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/cAB...wx_fmt=png&tp=webp&wxfrom=5&wx_lazy=1&wx_co=1

    November 2019, Wuhan locals were detected with COVID-19, with a spike of such terms in local social media. This coincided with the post-incubation period after the Military World Games.
    https://www.businessinsider.sg/coronavirus-patients-zero-contracted-case-november-2020-3?r=US&IR=T

    December 1, 2019, the first confirmed case of COVID-19 was detected in Wuhan. Subsequently more than 80000 people will be infected. Of the first 41 cases, 34% were not related to the wildlife market.
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext

    Daniel Lucey, an infectious disease specialist at Georgetown University, claimed that because there is an incubation time between infection and symptoms surfacing, and the presence of infected people with no links to wildlife market, the virus could not have originated from the wildlife market. Kristian Andersen, an evolutionary biologist at the Scripps Research Institute, agreed with the assessment.
    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...-not-be-source-novel-virus-spreading-globally

    Genotype assay of COVID-19 revealed 5 variants/strains (group ABCDE) of the virus. Most regions in the world have 1-2 COVID-19 variants including Hubei (mainly group C), and UK (Group . US is the only country with all 5 variants (Group ABCDE). In Virology 101, the region with the most variants is the origin of the disease.
    https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/cAB...wx_fmt=png&tp=webp&wxfrom=5&wx_lazy=1&wx_co=1
    https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/cAB...wx_fmt=png&tp=webp&wxfrom=5&wx_lazy=1&wx_co=1

    25 Jan, 2020, Japanese couple went for a 10 days vacation in Hawaii. On the second week they fell ill. On return to Japan they were tested and confirmed to have COVID-19.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/14/us/coronavirus-hawaii-japan.html

    Italy lab confirmed that the strain of COVID-19 is different from the one circulating in China, and that the circulation of the virus is not so recent, and had been spreading undetected for weeks.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...een-in-italy-for-weeks-before-it-was-detected

    China's coronavirus expert Dr Zhong Nanshan, the discoverer of SARS, said that although COVID-19 was detected in China, it doesn't necessary mean that it originated from China.

    As of March 12, 2020, the US had only tested 10000 people, and COVID-19 was confirmed in 1600 of them. As a comparison South Korea tests 10000 people a day, but the disease rate trajectory is the same as the US. This suggests that there is a great number of infected people in the US, just that they were not tested.
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...s-us-countries-italy-iran-singapore-hong-kong

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ak-ebola-anthrax-smallpox-ricin-a9042641.html
     
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    Thats just one episode of world saying bye bye to china.
     
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    I'll wait to see if this actually happens. He might be bluffing whilst all this is going and then will do an about turn when Corona is out of the news cycle.

    Huawei are offering the cheapest price - it's not like the Tories to turn that down;unless someone is lining thier pockets.
     
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    um...I suppose you think a country like China is better...not quite...




    They can always order an uncensored one from the US (the land of the not free) for $14.99


    :rofl::rofl:
     
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    Huawei never had a future in the 5 eyes countries, it was a surprise that it even took this long, but the british love their theatre plays.
     
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    Not that big. UK market is not big.

    China market + market in third world countries are much bigger.
     
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