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How To Build A Successful University With 100 Million? Ft. Dr. Aftab Maroof



In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Dr. Aftab Maroof. What was his early life like? Participating in the family business and why did he leave it? What did he do after? When did he start teaching and how did the journey progress? Getting a scholarship - COTS and how was it like living abroad? What was his research based on? Was his family also there? Why did they come back to Pakistan? Where did he work after coming back? Why was it a good time to choose FAST? What has he done for the University until now? How & Why did Fast University begin? How did it expand? The first admission and why so many people applied? Dr. Aftab’s personal journey? When did he become the director and what happened after? Why did he leave? Getting the Chiniot Campus constructed and the size of all campuses? How do they decide where and how to make a new campus? What challenges do they face? How is the board chosen? What model do they follow and is there room for improvement? Research, and how they promote it? Is something missing in our system? Why haven’t there been any placements here? Is Pakistan under an Educational emergency? Why aren’t most of our graduates employable? What’s the solution to this? Can we recover the money we spend on education? How can better resources be created? Why don’t our universities offer additional courses/diplomas? Why are they starting the Fintech Degree? How does he see the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and a lot more in tonight’s episode.

00:00 Tonight’s guest: Dr. Aftab Maroof
00:43 Dr. Aftab’s early life!
03:18 Participating in the family business
05:24 Why did he leave it and what did he do after?
07:03 Applying for jobs
07:36 When did he start teaching and how did the journey progress?
09:40 Getting a scholarship - COTS
12:35 How was it like living there?
13:35 What was his research in?
15:27 Was his family also there?
16:20 Dr. Aftab’s Viva and what happened after?
17:07 Why did they come back to Pakistan?
17:41 Where did he work after coming back?
18:06 Why was it a good time to choose FAST?
18:38 What has he done for the University until now?
19:53 How and Why did Fast University begin?
26:13 How did it expand?
28:32 The first admission and why so many people applied?
31:33 Dr. Aftab’s personal journey
33:21 When did he become the director and what happened after?
34:07 Why did he leave?
34:41 Getting the Chiniot Campus constructed and the size of all campuses
37:07 New Campus - Multan
37:33 How do they decide where and how to make a new campus?
38:51 What challenges do they face?
40:14 How is the board chosen?
43:26 What model do they follow and is there room for improvement?
48:31 Academics
49:51 Automating all processes
50:51 Research, and how they promote it?
55:30 Is something missing in our system?
1:01:03 Why haven’t there been any placements here?
1:03:33 Educational emergency
1:05:11 Why aren’t most of our graduates employable?
1:09:17 What’s the solution to this?
1:15:42 Can we recover the money we spend on education?
1:16:22 How can better resources be created?
1:25:09 Why don’t our universities offer additional courses/diplomas?
1:32:30 Why are they starting the Fintech Degree?
1:33:49 How does he see the Pakistan of 2050?


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How To Build A Successful University With 100 Million?

A university can only be as good as the underlying character of its student intake. Given the state of primary and secondary education, universities in Pakistan will go nowhere fast. Being creative and inquisitive on a foundation born of rigid medieval dogma is a recipe for persistent failure.
 

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Extremely confusing to say the least. Education is a provincial subject. We therefore have 4 or 5 different education ministers following the provincial education policies. Then we have the federal board. The Army Public School System follows another protocol. The madrassas have their own unique system of mainly producing religious scholars. Then we have the Oxford and Cambridge Schools, being followed in the private schools. To top it all we have the Urdru language/medium schools and the English lsnguage/medium schools. Thus the education and the students suffer a great deal
 

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By failing students on the slightest excuse?

A university can only be as good as the underlying character of its student intake. Given the state of primary and secondary education, universities in Pakistan will go nowhere fast. Being creative and inquisitive on a foundation born of rigid medieval dogma is a recipe for persistent failure.
This place is a money making machine with little or zero “educational” input.

Only its computer science program is worthwhile - the rest is mostly just dogmatic and sadistic staff looking to clock in, clock out with a few brilliant exceptions
 

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By failing students on the slightest excuse?


This place is a money making machine with little or zero “educational” input.

Only its computer science program is worthwhile - the rest is mostly just dogmatic and sadistic staff looking to clock in, clock out with a few brilliant exceptions
Computer Science is the only subject that carries this university. Despite all of its flaws, they are performing quite well in computer science as compared to other Pakistani universities.
 

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A university can only be as good as the underlying character of its student intake. Given the state of primary and secondary education, universities in Pakistan will go nowhere fast. Being creative and inquisitive on a foundation born of rigid medieval dogma is a recipe for persistent failure.


Hi,

Incorrect---very capable people have come thru the system and keep doing so regardless of poor education system.

Just like the poor education system in the US---the nation still gets its grads to fill in the needed positions.
 

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Hi,

Incorrect---very capable people have come thru the system and keep doing so regardless of poor education system.

Just like the poor education system in the US---the nation still gets its grads to fill in the needed positions.

Ha poor education system in the US? what sets the US educational system apart is its ability to train students to think for themselves and to come up with out of the box innovative solutions. Take out all the idiot underperforming black/hispanic students and the US educational system is top notch producing innovative CEO's who found companies that you cannot even live without.

It is easy to memorize a book and pass an exam. Innovation is beyond book smarts which is prevelent in Asian countries today.
 

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This place is a money making machine with little or zero “educational” input.

Only its computer science program is worthwhile - the rest is mostly just dogmatic and sadistic staff looking to clock in, clock out with a few brilliant exceptions

Much of computer science is rote programming, usually for a particular application, hence not creative. Please also see below.

Hi,

Incorrect---very capable people have come thru the system and keep doing so regardless of poor education system.

Just like the poor education system in the US---the nation still gets its grads to fill in the needed positions.

Capable? Certainly. Creative? Not likely. There is a difference.

what sets the US educational system apart is its ability to train students to think for themselves and to come up with out of the box innovative solutions.

An important thing to note.
 

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Much of computer science is rote programming, usually for a particular application, hence not creative. Please also see below.



Capable? Certainly. Creative? Not likely. There is a difference.



An important thing to note.
Algorithm development is creative so I disagree.

One could say the same about math or nuclear medicine if it is all about “here is how to solve this problem” versus “Solve this new problem based on what you have learnt on solving other problems that may or may not be similar”

Technically even music is existing permutations and combinations of notes.
 

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Nothing is possible until Imran comes back this is the only reality money can't make character

All the Universities in Pakistan from 1947 to Present

We produced 1 man who can truly be seen as a Leader post Mohammad Ali Jinnah and even he came from a unconventional sporting background where he learned most of his discipline from Sports

2 Lakh Rupee University or University with 100 Million , things can't move forward with what organizational structure we have in place

If the ideal is to produce zombies who take the degree and migrate overseas or other zombies who call themselves neutral then that idea of University itself is flawed

Universities are meant to create Leaders , and not Zombies , in Pakistan , leaders are born into families , Governance by virtue of birth. If the leaders are born in "families" of certain name then it is already decided , who gets to be a leader , we don't need Universities


When you have the right man as a Leader you don't need 100 Million you can create a Generation full of Leaders simply by enabling that 1 man to build policies for your Nation
 
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Algorithm development is creative so I disagree.

Can you please help me learn of new algorithms developed in Pakistani universities, including the one above, considering how computer science is generally taught there? Thanks.
 

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How To Build A Successful University With 100 Million? Ft. Dr. Aftab Maroof



In tonight’s conversation with our special guest, Dr. Aftab Maroof. What was his early life like? Participating in the family business and why did he leave it? What did he do after? When did he start teaching and how did the journey progress? Getting a scholarship - COTS and how was it like living abroad? What was his research based on? Was his family also there? Why did they come back to Pakistan? Where did he work after coming back? Why was it a good time to choose FAST? What has he done for the University until now? How & Why did Fast University begin? How did it expand? The first admission and why so many people applied? Dr. Aftab’s personal journey? When did he become the director and what happened after? Why did he leave? Getting the Chiniot Campus constructed and the size of all campuses? How do they decide where and how to make a new campus? What challenges do they face? How is the board chosen? What model do they follow and is there room for improvement? Research, and how they promote it? Is something missing in our system? Why haven’t there been any placements here? Is Pakistan under an Educational emergency? Why aren’t most of our graduates employable? What’s the solution to this? Can we recover the money we spend on education? How can better resources be created? Why don’t our universities offer additional courses/diplomas? Why are they starting the Fintech Degree? How does he see the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and a lot more in tonight’s episode.


00:00 Tonight’s guest: Dr. Aftab Maroof
00:43 Dr. Aftab’s early life!
03:18 Participating in the family business
05:24 Why did he leave it and what did he do after?
07:03 Applying for jobs
07:36 When did he start teaching and how did the journey progress?
09:40 Getting a scholarship - COTS
12:35 How was it like living there?
13:35 What was his research in?
15:27 Was his family also there?
16:20 Dr. Aftab’s Viva and what happened after?
17:07 Why did they come back to Pakistan?
17:41 Where did he work after coming back?
18:06 Why was it a good time to choose FAST?
18:38 What has he done for the University until now?
19:53 How and Why did Fast University begin?
26:13 How did it expand?
28:32 The first admission and why so many people applied?
31:33 Dr. Aftab’s personal journey
33:21 When did he become the director and what happened after?
34:07 Why did he leave?
34:41 Getting the Chiniot Campus constructed and the size of all campuses
37:07 New Campus - Multan
37:33 How do they decide where and how to make a new campus?
38:51 What challenges do they face?
40:14 How is the board chosen?
43:26 What model do they follow and is there room for improvement?
48:31 Academics
49:51 Automating all processes
50:51 Research, and how they promote it?
55:30 Is something missing in our system?
1:01:03 Why haven’t there been any placements here?
1:03:33 Educational emergency
1:05:11 Why aren’t most of our graduates employable?
1:09:17 What’s the solution to this?
1:15:42 Can we recover the money we spend on education?
1:16:22 How can better resources be created?
1:25:09 Why don’t our universities offer additional courses/diplomas?
1:32:30 Why are they starting the Fintech Degree?
1:33:49 How does he see the Pakistan of 2050?


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With due respect, FAST is a class-1 bullshit university. I say this with computer systems experience and a MS degree. FAST graduates carry a cheap copy of ego like LUMS graduates. People be a web designer and pretend like bjarne stroustrup.

Unfortunately no Pakistani university qualifies as a proper teaching and research institute in generally, and in CS especifically.

Can you please help me learn of new algorithms developed in Pakistani universities, including the one above, considering how computer science is generally taught there? Thanks.
Some NLP algorithms. Urdu nastalaeeq fonts (along with UET Lahore and ITU).
 

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