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How secure is Indian nuclear program?

Discussion in 'Pakistan Strategic Forces' started by TomCat111, Nov 8, 2006.

  1. vnomad

    vnomad FULL MEMBER

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    $100 billion isn't chump change for any country.

    So, I know whom to come to whenever I want to know the latest news on the Indian nuclear program. You somehow have access to info that's denied to commoners like us.


    Sure. Compared to the west yes. But, then isn't exactly appropriate for Pakistan to gloat about it seeing as its in the same boat.
     
  2. TomCat111

    TomCat111 FULL MEMBER

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    That’s what you said earlier
    Go figure.......:confused:

    Go mock those who pass the info, including certain retired officials turned academics. :coffee:

    No its not.:flag:
     
  3. Contrarian

    Contrarian ELITE MEMBER

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    vnomad, you dont need to justify.

    Agree that Pakistan is much better than India. It has much brighter people in its currently than stupid Indians, it has no poverty, atleast none compared to India. Pakistan has a much bigger and better economy than India. Not to forget that they also have a better military than India. Their planes are better, their Navy is better, and ofcoures their arm is far better than India's.

    The Indian nuke program is in shambles and only Pakistan operates its nuke plants and missiles with safety while the 'irresponsible' India proliferates nuke tech to various nations. And the US is a moron to not offer the responsible Pakistan the nuke deal and instead giving it to India.
     
  4. TomCat111

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    See...... it wasn’t that hard to admit.........:flag: :flag: :flag:
     
  5. vnomad

    vnomad FULL MEMBER

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    Who said the nuclear deal is worth $100 billion.



    Pass it to you? Personally? I have trouble swallowing that.
     
  6. TomCat111

    TomCat111 FULL MEMBER

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    Read the thread again, or stay awake during debates. ;)


    1. do I care?:disagree:
    2. did I say whether the info is passed to me or not?:coffee:
     
  7. Contrarian

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    I know...and be happy for the rest of your life thinking of that.
     
  8. TomCat111

    TomCat111 FULL MEMBER

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    India seeks nuclear help in Japan

    Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has asked the Japanese parliament to support India's bid to join the club of civilian nuclear powers.

    At the same time, he has reiterated India's "unshakable" commitment to nuclear non-proliferation.

    India's nuclear deal with the US needs approval of the Nuclear Suppliers' Group, of which Japan is a member.

    The two countries have come a long way since Tokyo imposed sanctions on Delhi following India's 1998 nuclear tests.

    Mr Singh addressed the lower house of parliament and met the trade minister on the first of his four-day visit of Japan, the first by an Indian prime minister in five years.

    He will meet Japanese Prime Minister, Shinzo Abe, on Friday.

    Disarmament

    Japan has been seeking warmer relations with India but has yet to offer a position on the India-US nuclear pact.

    The controversial pact was signed last year to give India access to civilian nuclear technology even though it has not signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty on atomic weapons.

    "Like Japan, India sees nuclear power as a viable and clean energy source to meet its growing energy requirements," Mr Singh was quoted by the AFP news agency as telling the Japanese parliament.

    "We seek Japan's support in helping put in place innovative and forward looking approaches of the international community to make this possible."

    In an aside from his prepared text, Mr Singh added: "At the same time, I would like to confirm that India's commitment to work for universal nuclear disarmament remains unshakable." :rofl:

    In a short speech to welcome Mr Singh, the speaker of the lower house, Yohei Kono, thanked the Indian parliament for its annual silent prayer for the victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    He called on India to "mutually cooperate to abolish nuclear weapons".

    Analysts say Japan's approval of the nuclear deal with the US would help Mr Singh.

    Critics, including his Communist allies and the opposition Bharatiya Janata Party, argue he is too closely aligned with Washington.

    Industrial corridor

    Mr Singh also called upon Japan to help strengthen trade and investment ties between the two countries, saying they were "well below potential".

    India is the largest recipient of Japanese development aid, but Japanese companies have focused on markets such as China, Thailand and Vietnam.

    The Japanese trade minister, who met Mr Singh, pledged cooperation to create a mega "industrial corridor" including a high-speed train link between Indian capital Delhi and its financial hub, Mumbai (Bombay).
     
  9. TomCat111

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    A reminder for those who naively immagine that there aren’t any separatist movements alive in India.:lol:

    And......

    Four top ULFA members arrested in Dibrugarh

    Press Trust of India

    Guwahati, December 23, 2006

    Four members of the ULFA, including two women, suspected of masterminding recent bomb attacks in the city were arrested on Saturday, police said.
    Police officials in Dibrugarh said three senior leaders of ULFA's "strike force 28th battalion" were arrested at Abhaypur in Sibsagar district as they were travelling from Guwahati to Namrup in Dibrugarh district.

    They were identified as Numal Chetia alias Kailash Changmai, a Myanmar-trained "sergeant major", his wife Bonty Chetia and "sergeant major" Samiran Barua alias Bishnu Bora.

    Police also nabbed Baby Chetri (30), a member of ULFA's Enigma 'B' unit, near Gauhati Medical College Hospital as she was coming out from the facility after meeting ULFA Vice Chairman Pradeep Gogoi, who is being treated in the hospital.

    Officials said Chetri was trained in urban guerrilla warfare and a partner of Numal Chetia. Educated in a missionary school in Guwahati, Chetri was released from jail in September, 2006, Guwahati's Additional Superintendent of Police Rajen Singh said.

    Chetia joined the ULFA in 1994 and jumped bail in 2004 after he was arrested following a shootout with police in Dibrugarh district, officials said.

    Samiran Barua, the head of ULFA's political wing in upper Assam, joined the group in 1989, while Bonty Chetia had returned to Guwahati from Myanmar after her induction into the outfit in 1996, they said.

    Twenty-three people were injured on Friday in Assam in two separate blasts and a shooting attributed to the ULFA.
     
  10. TomCat111

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    Some in these forums had been arguing that Indian nuke installations are as secure as they get. Then what’s with the changes?:eek:


    'Build N-reactors to withstand terror-attacks'

    Press Trust of India

    Washington, December 26. 2006

    The nuclear power industry wants the government to require companies to design new nuclear reactors that would better withstand large fires and explosions, such as those that could be caused by a terrorist attack using hijacked aircraft.

    "If you need to change the design to accommodate greater security, particularly for large fires and explosions, you want to do that up front in the design process, not after you build the plant" as the government requires, said Scott Peterson, a spokesman for the Nuclear Energy Institute.

    The industry's position, set out in a December 8 letter, runs counter to the governments.

    More than a month ago, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission decided to keep the current design rules - now more than a decade old - for new plants and make those facilities fulfill security requirements later.

    At question is the Design Basis Threat, or DBT, the largely secret requirements for threats for which nuclear plant operators must be prepared. A hijacked airliner is not on that list of threats, Peterson said, because defending against that kind of attack requires assistance from other government agencies and the military.

    Since the September 11 terrorist attacks, new and existing plants have been required to develop procedures to handle airplane attacks. NRC commissioner Gregory B Jaczko told The New York Times for an article published on Monday that those procedures were insufficient. He said the December 8 letter is "the clearest acknowledgement so far" that the industry believes plant designers should incorporate lessons from previous terrorist attacks.
     
  11. john_holmes

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    So which part of the article you need understanding ? Safety parameters and security checks keep evolving over time.
     
  12. TomCat111

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    So which part of your friends’ arguments do you not understand? They had been vigorously arguing that the facilities are already secure enough. Were your Indian friends wrong, or is the article wrong?;)

    Do us a favor, please read the thread before shooting from hip.......:wall:
     
  13. TomCat111

    TomCat111 FULL MEMBER

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    Now which one was arguing ULFA was as good as done with?:rofl:


    Army plan for India city peace

    By Subir Bhaumik
    BBC News, Calcutta

    Authorities in India's north-eastern state of Assam say they are planning to deploy soldiers in the capital Guwahati after a series of blasts in the city.
    There have been several bomb and grenade attacks - killing more than 20 people - in Guwahati since September.

    Officials say militants of the United Liberation Front of Assam (ULFA) were likely to be behind the attack.

    The separatist group had been fighting Delhi's rule in the tea and oil-rich state for the past 27 years.

    The proposal to deploy the army came up on Sunday during a meeting of the Unified Command, a body that includes representatives of the state administration and the police, the army and the federal para-military forces active in Assam.

    The Unified Command was formed in the late 1990s to coordinate counter-insurgency operations in Assam, a model later replicated in the troubled northern state of Kashmir.

    Though the army is deployed in most districts of Assam affected by separatist violence, the security of the state capital, Guwahati, has so far been handled by the Assam police.

    "But there has been a series of explosions in Guwahati (...) and there's a feeling that there could be more trouble in days to come," said Assam police intelligence chief Khagen Sarmah.

    Doubts

    Mr Sarmah blamed the ULFA for bomb explosions in the state since peace talks collapsed in September and operations against the rebels resumed.

    The ULFA has called for a boycott of the Indian National Games due in Assam in February.

    The group also called for boycott of Indian Republic Day celebrations on 26 January.

    "We apprehend a surge in rebel violence ahead of these events," said Mr Sarmah.

    But opinion is divided on whether deploying the army would help curb the violence.

    Correspondents say the troops deployments in Guwahati is likely to be opposed by Assamese human rights groups and regional political parties who have been calling for the resumption of peace talks and an end to military operations.
     
  14. TomCat111

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    Here is some more on how secure E India is........


    Blast in OIL pipeline in Assam, 100 people evacuated
    Guwahati, Dec. 27 (PTI): A blast took place in an Oil India Limited (OIL) pipeline resulting in oil spill in Upper Assam's Golaghat district yesterday night and forcing evacuation of 100 people from a village, OIL sources said.

    The blast due to "technical snag" set off oil spillage over a three km radius area which spread to Rajabari village, sources said.

    The authorities evacuated 100 people from the village, the sources said adding OIL engineers have rushed to the area.
     
  15. john_holmes

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    Post Sept 11, the views on security have gone a radical change. What next you will post an article on how Indian roads are unsafe ?? What is your age ?