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PN and PAF currently have full capability to deal with IN ACs. The point is why these stealth boats are carrying 700km range AntiShip (Harbah) missiles. Note 700km is the official range, the actual figure could be more. these Fast attack craft will launch surprise attacks as they have no long-range radar or sensors of their own (Type-360 radar Max. range 250km). Missiles would be launched based on the data provided from MPA aircraft or from Awacs, and with sea-skimming capability IN ships will detect them at close ranges, giving them a short time to defend.
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ACs are just a sitting duck these days you can kill them in so many ways and even from beneath the water.. Besides having the capability to killing it with missiles, air force and other navy assets there are drone subs and sea-mines
 
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Just my humble opinion, Pakistan now has the capability to use BM's to neutralize moving targets at sea.

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Pleas elaborate your point as per published data PN perhaps has max capability to hit slow moving targets by baber CM at 600-700 KM. Meanwhile BMs to neutralize moving targets at sea require extensive tracking and guidance as done by Chinese.
 

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Pleas elaborate your point as per published data PN perhaps has max capability to hit slow moving targets by baber CM at 600-700 KM. Meanwhile BMs to neutralize moving targets at sea require extensive tracking and guidance as done by Chinese.
Something are better left unsaid whenever P-282 get operationalise it will be an indirect acknowledgement for the operationization of support and tracking infrastructure as well.
 

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Goliath to David: ' I am too big, how can you hit me?
David to Goliath: 'You are too big, how I can miss you?
 
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nothing just get df21 from china and that will be end game
Not that simple dear, first it requires an excellent Satellite and Sensor coverage and real time data.
Moreover there are chances of signal blackouts during terminal phase due to extensive heat around the warhead and keeping right guidance at that time is quite tricky. China have claimed to achieve it but other countries have not achieved it yet.
 

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ACs are just a sitting duck these days you can kill them in so many ways and even from beneath the water.. Besides having the capability to killing it with missiles, air force and other navy assets there are drone subs and sea-mines
This. Pakistan has all the capabilities to rendering them useless with missiles, air force and other navy assets and as you side nowadays there are new even easier methods such as drone subs or sea mines
 

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Missiles would be launched based on the data provided from MPA aircraft or from Awacs, and with sea-skimming capability IN ships will detect them at close ranges, giving them a short time to defend.
In a hot war with India with an escalation level necessitating the sinking of an Indian aircraft carrier, that mission would likely have 50cm precission near real time satellite footage of that carrier available.

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when IN AC will be operational Pakistan navy will have additional advance assets.
08 AIP submarine
04 Type-54AP frigate
04 Jinnah class (Milgem) Frigate
 

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Ok, so we can essentially have two scenarios in this case;

Senario#1 India Decides to Use it Close to Our Port Cities

Out of Question, as it would be hit by a mine. Or Pakistani Air Force (PAF) with it's JF-17's would easily be able to go ahead and harass them, not to mention, if PN went full swing with hundreds of fast missile boats hit and run tactics.

Senario#2 The Open Seas [Near Oman]
In this scenario we can go ahead and see the true potential of such a threat, if India, were to go ahead and go to war with Pakistan, and let's say in a scenario that needed some supplies, it can easily not only hurt our merchant vessels but also go ahead and pressurize our supply lines.

Senario#3 Utopia ... [Most Probable Scenario]
If I was the PM of a country with a failing and aging ideology, where separatism is a proven theory (i.e. Pakistan and Bangladesh) and I wanted some propaganda to keep them in place and show off my stick as Stalin and Daddy Lenin did (Kashmir).

But you know to all of Indians out there, almost 300 Years ago a Man named Aurangzeb ruled India,
Look at the history on how quickly and decisively the fall came,


If we follow the British way of Division and Infiltration, btw there are a lot of similar-minded individuals we have in our neighboring country. Notably as seen by Operation
Operation Blue Star
It is easy to see:

"If as Pakistani's we are determined enough, and we use economics and do a swift Ideological Defeat to India, we can break it apart as we like."

Take USSR or the Romaov's for example, they failed to address the economic and political issues of their populace, and tried tyranny on their populace to keep them in place, it broke. The Indians are making the same mistake, If I was in charge of Pakistan, I would take the initiative and by means of technological and economic and internal infiltration I would go ahead and make a Deep State Sponsered by ISI, like FETO, but It's for the Muslims, and essentials in less than 100 Years, there would be only Pakistan as a dominating player.

As I like to say:

India is a lego, waiting to be broken piece by Piece.
 

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this is laughable india has no serious navy pakistan could seize this thing if it came to close to it simply take out the command the deck and either engine or make it unmanouverable end of story its not really a real threat in my view its a costly joke
if there even was war pakistan wouldnt even need to worry a single nuke it wouldnt even need a direct hit the thing would be gone so yes its an airfield in the middle of the sea but that can also become a huge loss in a very short time
 

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this is laughable india has no serious navy pakistan could seize this thing if it came to close to it simply take out the command the deck and either engine or make it unmanouverable end of story its not really a real threat in my view its a costly joke
if there even was war pakistan wouldnt even need to worry a single nuke it wouldnt even need a direct hit the thing would be gone so yes its an airfield in the middle of the sea but that can also become a huge loss in a very short time
What?
 

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aircraft carrier are a waste of ressources if you only want to use them to pose a risk on a neighbor its utter waste but if you basically want to have global reach its going to be fine for that job but the idea here is that the carrier could threaten pak which is laughable at best and not even worth to take serious
what could this carrier do to pakistan anyway when the idea would be that pakistan would retaliate with nuclear weapons in a war the idea of a carrier would very fast turn into the most costly mistake in fact this sounds like a bismark battleship kind of situation anyway explain to me how india could protect such a carrier from raids because to me it looks kind of defenseless with indias lacking navy all around defenseless in fact
carriers are trash even if you have 3 of them which is basically the needed amount to have something serious than you need such a large escort that its just a huge expense all around
 
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indias carrier is sunken with a few of irans missiles its that useless if we would compare with pakistan than pakistan would simply risk 12 or so planes a sea distraction all in a suicide mission and the carrier gets wrecked which would basically already be a victory for pakistan considering how little it would have lost to destroy such a huge target
either way this carrier is no serious threat to pakistan and it just means that pakistan needs to get a speedboat flottila atleast a 10th the size of irans and pak can already push this old concept of sea warfare around like a toy
 

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aircraft carrier are a waste of ressources if you only want to use them to pose a risk on a neighbor its utter waste but if you basically want to have global reach its going to be fine for that job but the idea here is that the carrier could threaten pak which is laughable at best and not even worth to take serious

what could this carrier do to pakistan anyway when the idea would be that pakistan would retaliate with nuclear weapons in a war the idea of a carrier would very fast turn into the most costly mistake in fact this sounds like a bismark battleship kind of situation anyway explain to me how india could protect such a carrier from raids because to me it looks kind of defenseless with indias lacking navy all around defenseless in fact
carriers are trash even if you have 3 of them which is basically the needed amount to have something serious than you need such a large escort that its just a huge expense all around
Ah. No. The carrier can still pose a threat to our nation considering how they have the ability to strike from 2 directions. They can strike from across the border and can strike from the sea. Although i would agree it is more or less a waste of money and we can pretty much sink or render their carrier useless somewhat easily with our new naval power, its still a threat to be overcome. Dont underestimate the enemy. Also nukes are a last resort. They wont be used immediately.
 

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