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How PAF pilots got the edge in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war

Discussion in 'Military History & Tactics' started by maqsad, Sep 13, 2008.

  1. notorious_eagle

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    Damn the Israelis are smarttt, if only our Arab friends were a bit more intelligent i am sure the situation would have been different :D
     
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    Sorry I don't mean to derail this thread , but I did not understand the above sentence. Who is we? And what were American pilots doing in Libya. Were the two dead pilots American?


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  3. AliFarooq

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    ^^^
    we means, as pakistan and at time of arab war, sir Muradk was a piolet for PAF, and PAF sent pilots to help fight against Israel.

    Americans were helping the Israelis, fight against the arabs.
     
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    Looks like the thread has been changed, what our Israeli friend doesn't have an answer to a simple question.

    ALI: PAF pilots were selected for all 3 countries , Egypt, Syria, Libya.
    We were on the Arabs side fighting against the Israeli's.
    I fail to understand why have they change the story.
    IAF attacked at the time when the pilots were having there breakfast, The breakfast used to come from the king every morning and man that was some breakfast. When the IAF attacked Egypt the pilots were busy eating and stuffing there stomachs,( change of **** or no **** ADA is alert 24/7 ) so the change of shift is a totally a false story. The only pilots who took off were Pakistani's we means the PAF took off and did what ever we could but coordinating with each other was difficult if we had more pilots and good coordination between the other Arabs countries we would have shot most of them, After taking off we found out that IAF took most of the planes which were parked the ones which took off were shot down ( bad pilot/skills) on there part ) , We got in and when the fuel got low we decided to land in Syria. From there we regrouped and split our selves between Syria and Libya. We were experts in Mirages, Hunters, and Migs. I will not name the pilots but they took off from Libya and got into a dog fight with mirages and the mirages bugged out with in 15 sec of fight to our pilots surprise they saw 2 F-4 , Getting an F-4 with a Mig21 was a piece of cake they had only missiles which were not to advanced could easily dodge but Mig21 guns were BadAss.
    Most of the Arab war was a silent war no RT communications at all, Break Radio silence in emergency. The GCI told us who were Pakistani that the F-4s are Americans because they spoke American English. For the same reasons we were caught speaking PUNJABI and PUSHTO:lol:.

    And for the members who want the names of the pilots that is impossible.
     
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    lol the second line my reply was the answer to, "were the americans involved?"
     
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    According to them they were not in the war by a 1000 mile, but then were most of us were trained by the RPAF so we automatically knew when we got into a god fight. It was very easy to intercept there transmission. And our Air defense guys were good they told us that they were Americans. Most people give credit to the pilot but if 50 % job is done by the GCI and if he is good you can take your enemy down without any problems.
     
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    Bravo to PAF for having F-4s in its kill tally. Now as far as I know Israel operated the F-4E version of Phantom (in 1973 Yom Kippur war) which did carry a 20mm cannon. Just think what kind of surprise would have you got had you thought that there is no gun on them!!!

    By 1973, USAF was also using F-4E Phantom with M61 20mm cannon.
     
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    When the pilots saw the F-4s first thing which came to there mind was AIM-7 Sparrow and vietnam , The cannon was so heavy they had to balance the plane with an extra fuel tank under the fuselage underneath the tail and they had no fuel tanks
    PAF has never claimed any F-4 kills because we were not there a simple fact , That is why I didn't want to start the topic. There are so many things that our own coursemates didn't know.
    I just hope Asim our Mod had a chance to see A Retd Birg in Lahore who has a book on all the missions and all the dirt we and other cooked up.
     
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