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They're ineffective because they require an intricate network of sensors and communications nodes for them to work, all of which will be targeted and destroyed in a high-intensity conflict.

If such weapons worked, India would've built and fielded them a long time ago.
 

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They're ineffective because they require an intricate network of sensors and communications nodes for them to work, all of which will be targeted and destroyed in a high-intensity conflict.

If such weapons worked, India would've built and fielded them a long time ago.
What a logic of india dont have them means its a dud. Hats off to this thinking
 

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They're ineffective because they require an intricate network of sensors and communications nodes for them to work, all of which will be targeted and destroyed in a high-intensity conflict.

If such weapons worked, India would've built and fielded them a long time ago.
How can u compare India to China? It's like telling the world. Just becos India send a tiny orbiter to mars and India is ahead of China in space despite not able to send man to space or even any space station technology.
 

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Just see how China from a moving space satellite tracked and focus and kept in the center of focus a moving rocket after launch of rocket. Can we agree that a moving rocket will be much much faster than a moving airplane?

Can the aircraft carrier move faster than that airplane or speeding rocket?

That same kind of information can be relayed onto DF21D DF26B as to where the carrier is and heading to.

Enough information to hit the medulla oblongata of that carrier.

And do not think 1 DF26B got one warhead only.
Remember the throw weight of DF26B is 1,800 kg, and half of that for DF21D.
A 100 kg of anything coming down at Mach 10 to Mach 15 will be very very bad news for anything that it hit.

It might amuse you all to know not only are there 300++ DF21Ds and DF26Bs.

There is a strong possibility that those are MIRVED. To maximise the chances of your brave sailors you send will remain forever young.

:enjoy::enjoy::enjoy:

:pleasantry::pleasantry::pleasantry:

And for all you guess, DF21Ds might well be MIRVED as well.

And even if not MIRVED, there are still 300++ of them. You hope, or think, everyone of them will miss? And same for the 3000++ Mach 3 AShMs?

USA ships and planes not going to have any bases west of Pearl Harbour once the shooting start.


Murica should just go to Tiananmeng square and crawl on hands and knees 3 times

:omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:
 

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The American u recon will just sit their crossed legged and do nothing.
You at the moment don't have a single country that is allied to u in the south china sea and way things are shapping up u are looking at a blockade of the straits of malacca some where down the line as now you are directly challenging the American stature as the number one economic power in the world along with making huge stride in becoming a military power.
I don't know if u Chinese know this or not but the yanks surely know that the only way they can retain their status and stop u from becoming a threat is if it can drag u in a war.
 

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DF-21 is old news. DF-26 is the latest model range 5,000 km.

Both have uses.

DF-26 is IRBM class with 4000 KM range.

FYI




Just see how China from a moving space satellite tracked and focus and kept in the center of focus a moving rocket after launch of rocket. Can we agree that a moving rocket will be much much faster than a moving airplane?

Can the aircraft carrier move faster than that airplane or speeding rocket?

That same kind of information can be relayed onto DF21D DF26B as to where the carrier is and heading to.

Enough information to hit the medulla oblongata of that carrier.

And do not think 1 DF26B got one warhead only.
Remember the throw weight of DF26B is 1,800 kg, and half of that for DF21D.
A 100 kg of anything coming down at Mach 10 to Mach 15 will be very very bad news for anything that it hit.

It might amuse you all to know not only are there 300++ DF21Ds and DF26Bs.

There is a strong possibility that those are MIRVED. To maximise the chances of your brave sailors you send will remain forever young.

:enjoy::enjoy::enjoy:

:pleasantry::pleasantry::pleasantry:

And for all you guess, DF21Ds might well be MIRVED as well.

And even if not MIRVED, there are still 300++ of them. You hope, or think, everyone of them will miss? And same for the 3000++ Mach 3 AShMs?

USA ships and planes not going to have any bases west of Pearl Harbour once the shooting start.


Murica should just go to Tiananmeng square and crawl on hands and knees 3 times

:omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:
They are dangerous and capable strike platforms no doubt but one must be mindful of the capabilities of the enemy you are wargaming in theory and practice.

FYI











Americans have also fielded a large number of interceptors by now. Just the SM-3 interceptor class inventory exceed 400 in count in the present.

There are also soft-kill technologies to account for which can be very effective as well.

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They're ineffective because they require an intricate network of sensors and communications nodes for them to work, all of which will be targeted and destroyed in a high-intensity conflict.

If such weapons worked, India would've built and fielded them a long time ago.
best reason ever
 

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Both have uses.

DF-26 is IRBM class with 4000 KM range.

FYI



They are dangerous and capable strike platforms no doubt but one must be mindful of the capabilities of the enemy you are wargaming in theory and practice.

FYI











Americans have also fielded a large number of interceptors by now. Just the SM-3 interceptor class inventory exceed 400 in count in the present.

There are also soft-kill technologies to account for which can be very effective as well.

REFERENCES


So u r matching one capability of china with one capability of usa.

Why are you considering that only antiship ballostic missile will be used?
So u r matching one capability of china with one capability of usa.

Why are you considering that only antiship ballostic missile will be used?
 

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Both have uses.

DF-26 is IRBM class with 4000 KM range.

FYI



They are dangerous and capable strike platforms no doubt but one must be mindful of the capabilities of the enemy you are wargaming in theory and practice.

FYI











Americans have also fielded a large number of interceptors by now. Just the SM-3 interceptor class inventory exceed 400 in count in the present.

There are also soft-kill technologies to account for which can be very effective as well.

REFERENCES


What is the capability of the mighty Muricans?

Other than their mouths so good at talking up themselves and talking down of all others especially China?

Their defensive systems now suddenly able to work wonders when we seen dismal failures of that many times in KSA?

And that was against a handful of subsonic missiles as well until the missiles went BANG BANG BANG
And to date, no idea where those missiles came from and where they went until they went BANG BANG BANG.

And even to date and with hindsight and checking the records of radar coverage, Muricans got no clue where the subsonic missiles came from and their paths.


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Do remember how proud Murica was of Dugout Doug and Murica mighty brilliant occifers and their Ma Deuces and battleships with 16 inch guns and planes and carriers and arty with unlimited ammo and that Muricans will all be home by Christmas as what can China do with single shot bolt action rifles against Murica and the rest of the world including the best from 5Eyes.

Murica prouderer now than back in 1950.

They all ran shitting in their pants and screaming MAMA MAMA south of Parallel in less than 3 weeks






Look on the front line at 24 Nov 1950 and the front line of 16 Dec 1950.





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It took China only twenty days and less to do that push down to 38 parallel fighting USA and the UN combined who had 100 times and more of the firepower of China and China economical might less than sub Sahara Africa.


So let the Muricans turn pushing into shoving with phony FONOPs in the beliefs that Muricans invincible and can bully left and right and kick sand into the face of China


CHINA WILL END WHAT MURICA STARTED
 

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So u r matching one capability of china with one capability of usa.

Why are you considering that only antiship ballostic missile will be used?
I did not understand your response honestly. My response is subject-relevant.

And what else China will throw at USN? What do you think CEC is all about? Did you understand the images and contents I posted?

What is the capability of the mighty Muricans?

Other than their mouths so good at talking up themselves and talking down of all others especially China?

Their defensive systems now suddenly able to work wonders when we seen dismal failures of that many times in KSA?

And that was against a handful of subsonic missiles as well until the missiles went BANG BANG BANG
And to date, no idea where those missiles came from and where they went until they went BANG BANG BANG.

And even to date and with hindsight and checking the records of radar coverage, Muricans got no clue where the subsonic missiles came from and their paths.


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Do remember how proud Murica was of Dugout Doug and Murica mighty brilliant occifers and their Ma Deuces and battleships with 16 inch guns and planes and carriers and arty with unlimited ammo and that Muricans will all be home by Christmas as what can China do with single shot bolt action rifles against Murica and the rest of the world including the best from 5Eyes.

Murica prouderer now than back in 1950.

They all ran shitting in their pants and screaming MAMA MAMA south of Parallel in less than 3 weeks






Look on the front line at 24 Nov 1950 and the front line of 16 Dec 1950.





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1605573939409.png



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It took China only twenty days and less to do that push down to 38 parallel fighting USA and the UN combined who had 100 times and more of the firepower of China and China economical might less than sub Sahara Africa.


So let the Muricans turn pushing into shoving with phony FONOPs in the beliefs that Muricans invincible and can bully left and right and kick sand into the face of China

CHINA WILL END WHAT MURICA STARTED
Correct word is "Americans."

How any of this is valid to discussion on hand? Abqaiq refinery as an analogue to USN? Like seriously?

And a war that happened in the 1950s? Good going, my friend. :tup:

This thread is about hypothetical effectiveness of DF-21D and the sort and I addressed this part. Feel free to digest it.
 

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I did not understand your response honestly. My response is subject-relevant.

And what else China will throw at USN? What do you think CEC is all about? Did you understand the images and contents I posted?


Correct word is "Americans."

How any of this is valid to discussion on hand? Abqaiq refinery as an analogue to USN? Like seriously?

This thread is about hypothetical effectiveness of DF-21D and the sort and I addressed this part. Feel free to digest it.
There r lot of things china can throw at US and vice versa ...
C802
Yj12.
And many more supersnoic cruise missile
 

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They're ineffective because they require an intricate network of sensors and communications nodes for them to work, all of which will be targeted and destroyed in a high-intensity conflict.

If such weapons worked, India would've built and fielded them a long time ago.
Indians are too busy with other matters
 

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How any of this is valid to discussion on hand? Abqaiq refinery as an analogue to USN? Like seriously?

And a war that happened in the 1950s? Good going, my friend. :tup:

This thread is about hypothetical effectiveness of DF-21D and the sort and I addressed this part. Feel free to digest it.

There are Americans and Muricans.

And America and Murica.

This will tell you the difference.

:enjoy: :enjoy::enjoy:


And if their defense systems so touted and praised by themselves cannot defend Abqaiq refinery against simple subsonic missiles, Murica going to defend against warheads coming down at Mach 15 ? combined with AShMs by the hundreds flying in at Mach3?

And to date unable to prove the tracks of those missiles but coming up with accusations those came from Iran without any proof other than Murican mealy mouths?

Look at the overlapping areas where their superlative radar can track anything but can tell them nuthing but nuthing.

Please explain that to us all.
 
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