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How China's Leap In Missiles Is Altering The Picture For India

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Asraam, IDerby, K-100 are only ones in front line service and even Derby ER is a question mark, you dont count things you will have in the future. If they listed Chinese future missiles the gap would be even greater. The point of the article is that Chinese missiles are outranging and out fighting the latest from the West, the fact India will equip itself with EXPORT versions of Western missiles means you are at least two steps behind.

Hi,

Welcome----.

Pakistani fanboys and adults can secure their defense on weapons they will get in the future all the time.

Why can the indians not claim ssomething on similar grounds---?????
 

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PL-15 is yet to be inducted.
its the induction phase with J-10 and J-16 and tell me why do think that its yet to be inducted because of your false ego can't accept that here it is pics of J-10 and J-16 with PL-15 @randomradio
J-10C_PL-15.jpg
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Meteor's range is far, far more than 100Km.
then show me the prove every site on the net stated Meteor range is 100 km including jane's, aviation weekly, flight global etc etc, you're ranting/bashing without a prove @randomradio
here another links you stubbborn @randomradio
https://militaryleak.com/meteor.html
against fighter jet it has a 100 km but it has range of 300+ km against bombers, AWACS, tanker and ISR platform @randomradio but not against the fighter jets you stubborn @randomradio :hitwall::hitwall::hitwall: here is the link
https://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/uk-complex-weapons/meteor-bvraam/
The K-77M will be part of the Super MKI upgrade, which will be signed very soon
qoute me when you super MKI upgrade R-77M will be inducted by IAF @randomradio
The Derby ER is part of the LCA project, which is an ongoing program.
what is range of EL/M 2032 in LCA 100+ km, Iderby has also range a 100 km
  • Weights: Max Weight 100 kg (220 lb)[1]
  • Performance: Max Range 150 km (81 nm)[1]
  • Range 100km(1m2 size plane)
http://aviationweek.com/paris-air-show-2015/i-derby-er-all-new-performance-0
K-100 entered production long ago. You won't find proof of it on the Internet.
becuase you haven't those K-100 because you're ranting/bashing without a prove and chinese developing this for anti awacs and anti tanker/ anti ISR mission @randomradio
VLRAAM
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J-16_PL-15 (1).jpg
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The latest images (November 2016) indicated a new large VLRAAM is under development and its designation is unknown. Compared to PL-12,it has 4 tail control fins only (coupled with TVC?) and is significantly longer and thicker than PL-12 (length 5.7m, diameter 300mm). Its large size suggests the missile actually belongs to a new class of VLRAAM and not a PL-12 replacement. As the result it cannot be carried internally by the 4th generation fighters such as J-20 but is expected to be carried externally by 3.5th generation long-range fighters/interceptors such as J-11D and J-16. However it may still be carried externally by J-20 underneath its wings. The missile appears to be propelled by a dual pulse rocket motor in favor of a ramjet engine, which has a smaller drag and a slimmer size. It is also speculated to fly a semi-ballistic trajectory similar to American AIM-54 in order to achieve an extra long range (range>300km, speed>Mach 4, cruising altitude 30km). PL-X is believed to feature an advancedguidance system including a two-way datalink and a new active AESA seeker with enhanced ECCM capability. Before the launch the missile must obtain the target information via datalink from an AWACS, a land-based long-range radar or even a satellite. The launch aircraft disengages right after releasing the missile. After the initial ascent stage, the missile may use Beidou/GPS+INS+datalink guidance during the mid-course cruising stage. At the terminal diving stage, in combination with the AESA seeker, it may also use an IIR seeker as indicated by a small optical window in its nose, which further increases its kill probability amid severe jamming. Therefore this VLRAAM could pose a serious threat to high-value aerial targets deep behind the enemy line such as AWACS and tankers, and currently is the only type in this class. It was rumored in November 2016 that a PL-X was test-fired successfully from a J-16.
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India have not a single evdidence like this that K-100 is in IAF arsenal @randomradio :suicide::suicide2:
Lastly, we are getting the Meteor next year, so any Chinese equivalent induction will happen well after IAF has an operational Meteor
look above my pics it already use by J-10 and J-16 you stubborn @randomradio you have too much false ego that india is far far more advance than China in military fields @randomradio :blah::blah::blah:
Jay shupa dupa powa Hind @randomradio :lol::enjoy:

 

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Meteor, ASRAAM, IDerby-ER, K-100, Astra etc. We are good, thanks.
They are threat to our ancient MiG's!
I suggest we should not decommission our MiG's instead park them in open to make them feel more comfortable.

ok, what is stopping india from taking tibet? or aksia chin? after all india is "good".......... right?
take tibet? which weed are you smoking?

when did India lay claim on tibet. Discussion is about missiles not about taking aksai chin.
We can also ask the same stupid rhetoric question about when is pakistan going to take kashmir or china going to take arunchal pradesh.
 

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then show me the prove every site on the net stated Meteor range is 100 km including jane's, aviation weekly, flight global etc etc, you're ranting/bashing without a prove
the meteor actually has a range of 200+km, what the indians fail to tell you is that ranges like this are pretty much useless because the rafale system architecture will only allow one way communication upto a point.


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take tibet? which weed are you smoking?

when did India lay claim on tibet. Discussion is about missiles not about taking aksai chin.
We can also ask the same stupid rhetoric question about when is pakistan going to take kashmir or china going to take arunchal pradesh.
i dont smoke, my argument is under the pretence of "Meteor, ASRAAM, IDerby-ER, K-100, Astra etc. We are good, thanks." india is not good, all of the mentioned are not in indian service.
 

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India always banked on foreign weapons to protect themselves, and it made sense in the past, but what about now?
Well so far, their LCA Tejas, which is running some 20 years late is considered by the Indians as the next generation fighter, the JF-17 which travelled the globe and performed at all major international airshows but since the Thunder pulled out of a second tier Bahrain Air show, the Indians claim it was due to fear of competition from Tejas which was making it's first appearance.....as for the Chinese missile capability, just wait until Tejas test fires yet again, it will be another breaking news and the Chinese superiority will be neutralised....and every one can go back monitoring Chinese satellites flying beyond Jupiter.
 

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the meteor actually has a range of 200+km, what the indians fail to tell you is that ranges like this are pretty much useless because the rafale system architecture will only allow one way communication upto a point.
can you provide source for you claim i searched whole respected site like jane's, aviation weekly, flight global etc etc they all says that Meteor has a range is 100-150 km @Blue Marlin sir :undecided:
 
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can you provide source for you claim i searched whole respected site like jane's, aviation weekly, flight global etc etc they all says that Meteor has a range is 100-150 km @Blue Marlin sir :undecided:
there isnt one, the latest aim-120d missiles have a known range of ~180km and thats a solid rocket missile. the ramjet missiles such as the meteor is more efficient and can sustain high speeds thus the greater range. the usa is not looking at developing somthing similar to the meteor. heck there even replacing their hellfire missiles because our brimstones are much better.
 

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there isnt one, the latest aim-120d missiles have a known range of ~180km and thats a solid rocket missile. the ramjet missiles such as the meteor is more efficient and can sustain high speeds thus the greater range. the usa is not looking at developing somthing similar to the meteor. heck there even replacing their hellfire missiles because our brimstones are much better.
so you assume just meteor has a 200 km range, and also remember that meteor has ram intake which means it depleted its kinetic energy because of ram intake drag @Blue Marlin :p::enjoy:
 

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few as compare to india, as a stopgap measures when J-11D and J-20 show its full potential @SOUTHie :p::enjoy:
haha, stop gap. In other words, no other country would sell them because of their notorious history of copying. The Russians forced them to sign that they will respect the IP for the Su-35's.:enjoy: J-11's and J-20 hmmm
 

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haha, stop gap. In other words, no other country would sell them because of their notorious history of copying. The Russians forced them to sign that they will respect the IP for the Su-35's.:enjoy: J-11's and J-20 hmmm
Keep blabbering without the clue yes they are copying so what is your problem @SOUTHie
 

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haha, stop gap. In other words, no other country would sell them because of their notorious history of copying. The Russians forced them to sign that they will respect the IP for the Su-35's.:enjoy: J-11's and J-20 hmmm
China bought SU-35 with severals purposes:

-Use it as benchmark to current J11s, J15, J16...family to assess our current strength and Weakness
-Use it to evaluate our current design and manufacturing technology compare to the technology in Su-35 so we can
further improve our J-xx Flanker family.
-Study the concept of high maneuverability of the Su-35 with vector thrust
-Study the 3D Nozzle engine
-Get familiar with Su-35 so when our neighbor get Su-35, we will know how to counter it.
-study the armament package that come with the deal so we can learn more about Russia missiles.

Consider 2+ billions as our school fee to learn more about the latest Sukoi design is worth, it will certainly help China to leap frog some domain such high maneuverability with China has never charted in this domain. China is walking out the philosophy of merely copy to innovation so sign the IP with Russia is not a big deal.
 

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