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Sudarshan

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I don’t understand this fetish with knowledge based / service economy.

Yes, it creates a larger middle class and thousands of billionaires. But at the expense of the mass!

Transition too soon and you end up like India and Sri Lanka.

Loads of millionaires and billionaires but the poor cannot even afford a decent funeral. They have to resort to chucking bodies into rivers off bridges!

BD should not transition to a knowledge based economy for another 20-25 years. By that time we would have met the underwear needs of the world.

And of course we still need to learn to make sewing needles!
And that service industry created a huge market enough to create a decent manufacturing base increasing rapidly YoY.

And what do you even mean by “end up like India”? We’re not a single sector dependent economy and we have a diversified economy with high growth.
 

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So India doesnt have state owned universities ????

In opposite of India, Indonesia has large state owned universities and our state owned universities quality is above private own ones. There are around 86 state owned universities in Indonesia and all are very good compared to private ones.

Even the best high schools in Indonesia and Madrasah are 80 % own by government including the the best 1,2, and 3. Within top 10 Highschools in Indonesia, 80 % are state owned ones/public schools. The best highschool in Indonesia is actually state owned Madrasah

Is primary and secondary education free or subsidised? What the average cost a year for primary and secondary school and is it affordable for everyone?
 

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Compared to Private universities? VERY VERY VERY FEW. And they charge a good amount of fee. And part of those which that train Knowledge oriented profession, is even minuscule.

In engineering, if there are 60 seats in a semester for Computer science or IT, there will be 600-800 seats in total for engineering.

If you go to private university in Indonesia, you will hardly get scholarships. In Indonesia, if we go to state owned universities, even if you are poor, you can still finish the education. Scholarship is not only given by government, but also big private companies in Indonesia since the best minds are in state university ( example is Universitas Indonesia and Institute Teknologi Bandung )
 

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Thats about 1.75 billion dollars worth of handsets sold. (Tk 15,000 Carore is Tk 150 billion = 1.75 billion usd)

India for a comparison had (2836 billion inr) 37 billion dollars worth of headsets sold. (https://www.indiatoday.in/technolog...2021-xiaomi-was-top-winner-1906831-2022-01-31)

And then @UKBengali and @Bilal9 type people think that Bangladeshi are richer than India. :rofl:

BD population is 164 million, India 1380 million, about 8.5 times.

Any one of those data points you mentioned is probably off.

Did India today get those figures from Swarajya Magazine? :azn:

Jokes aside, not interested in this pi$$ing contest.

If you claim India is a richer market, then so be it.

Although India's lower per capita GDP nominal than that of Bangladesh would hardly make sense with that supposition.

And more people in Bangladesh use cellphones compared to India (32.4% in Bangladesh vs. 31.8% in India)


Whatever floats your boat - buddy....

Here are some sources so you can educate yourself (these don't say the size of the Bangladeshi cellphone market).


 
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Is primary and secondary education free or subsidised? What the average cost a year for primary and secondary school and is it affordable for everyone?

State school ( Elementary, junior and high schools ) are free of charge. And the teachers in Jakarta for teaching in state schools have the same salary like if you are medical Doctor working in state hospitals.
 

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State school ( Elementary, junior and high schools ) are free of charge. And the teachers in Jakarta for teaching in state schools have the same salary like if you are medical Doctor working in state hospitals.

Till what age is secondary school to?
 

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Till what age is secondary school to?

Primary school until High schools are free for state owned schools. 20 % of our state budget goes to education, it is our law, imposed after we get democracy with the help of Allah.

Even books are free. Coming from previous students
 

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What many of the doubters, detractors and naysayers do not realize is that Walton (and in fact all Bangladesh cellphone mfr/assemblers) labor cost (which is a large component of electronics assembly and manufacture) is lower than everyone (including India, by about half). This labor cost differential will stay this way for the foreseeable future.

So - while we have BIMARU semi-educated fascist cockroaches coming in here putting in jealous "Ha-ha" reacts (not that anyone really cares), the basic economic facts of a manufacturing economy are like a hard slap in their face.

Their head honcho Mahant Aditya meanwhile is begging Bangladeshi mfrs. to invest in his BIMARU state.
Lungi clad mullah is boasting about mobile phone manufacturing.

25.9 million handsets were produced in Bangladesh in 2020-21


Whereas SAMSUNG plant situated in NOIDA(so called BIMARU State ) alone produced more than 120 Million handsets.

Now you can go and f**c yourself with a plate of macchi bhat and return when you have AUKAT to talk.

By the way Bangladeshi rickshawpullers are still plying in my region = a slap for higher per capita fudged income.

So India doesnt have state owned universities ????

In opposite of India, Indonesia has large state owned universities and our state owned universities quality is above private own ones. There are around 86 state owned universities in Indonesia and all are very good compared to private ones.

Even the best high schools in Indonesia and Madrasah are 80 % own by government including the the best 1,2, and 3. Within top 10 Highschools in Indonesia, 80 % are state owned ones/public schools. The best highschool in Indonesia is actually state owned Madrasah
How did you come to know that India dose not have large number of State owned universities ? Or Indian State Owned Universities are not better than private one?
 
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Actually, its like this. This industry does not pollutes environment. Does not require any massive public infrastructure. Does not require any major government spending. Even the universities in India are funded by the private people, ie, government does not need to pay massive funds. It is self financed.

Even the funding of new startups come from foreign money. So these industries do not even compete with low-skilled industries for capital too.

So NOT building this industry is leaving money on table. To be honest government does not need to do anything but just not impede the industry by banning it outright.

Knowledge based and IT based service industry is something that only gives.

NOT promoting low-skilled industry is a failure totally independent of this industry (successful or unsuccessful).
The IT moguls have taken up prime land that would have been used for manufacturing.

I have visited some of these campuses - grotesquely opulent!

IT industry uses up massive amount of electricity.

IT and your service industry sucks up the best talent and entrepreneurs.

Reality is you have to choose one or the other due to scarcity of land, talent, water and power.

Caste hierarchy also favours office jobs and looks down on blue collar jobs.

Caste hierarchy is also why you have such a small pool of hard core coders despite the undoubted talent pool. Everyone wants to be a manager!
 
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And that service industry created a huge market enough to create a decent manufacturing base increasing rapidly YoY.

And what do you even mean by “end up like India”? We’re not a single sector dependent economy and we have a diversified economy with high growth.

India’s resources are spread out too thinly. Hence it’s not competitive in any sector other than IT and call centre (even that is due to the English language).

In a globalised world specialism is what gets you competitiveness.

Margin is tiny hence you need to make millions of items to make a return on investment.

Bangladesh needs to double its garments exports - relatively easy pickings from China.

And create additional jobs in backward linkage and supply chain.

Sign an FTA with a significant trading bloc and I will believe India is competitive.

Heck! Even one with Bangladesh would be a start.
 

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Although India's lower per capita GDP nominal than that of Bangladesh would hardly make sense with that supposition.
How many times have I pointed you out on this?
Can the Bangladeshis on the forum stop lying atleast?

Here is your smartphone data, stop scavenging Wikipedia.


 

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State school ( Elementary, junior and high schools ) are free of charge. And the teachers in Jakarta for teaching in state schools have the same salary like if you are medical Doctor working in state hospitals.

I love Indonesian model in every way:
- Secular but not anti-religion
- Modern
- Diverse
- Strong Millitary
- Pragmatic
- Uanapologetic culturally Islamic
- tolerant
- development oriented
- non-confrontational foreign policy

and of course all those magical tropical islands.
i was lucky enough to have been there 10 years ago. Snorkeling in shallow coral reefs Bunaken island, liveaboard boat trip in Komodo and a weekend in Bali. Just fond memories. Hope to go back there one day, InshaAllah.
 
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And that service industry created a huge market enough to create a decent manufacturing base increasing rapidly YoY.

And what do you even mean by “end up like India”? We’re not a single sector dependent economy and we have a diversified economy with high growth.

It doesn’t really.

Service sector is not spreading the wealth around.

Average call centre person or maintenance coder or COTS package configurator or tester - earns very little. Most of the money goes to the owners and managers.
 

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