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How 20 million Pakistanis defeated 500 million indians in 2 wars (1948, 1965) captured from them a territory larger then Austria or Czech Republic

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For some this may feel like a david vs goliath win but it is not really that if you look little bit deeper. Pakistan has always been superior to India and this is not only about modern era but going back 3000 years..

their defeats were in 1948 and 1965 conventionally in 1948 they lost a territory larger then Austria and Czech Republic to Pakistan which is called today Gilgit Baltistan and Azad Kashmir held by Pakistan to this day. In to 1965 Pakistan beat back their offensive to retake these territories but advanced into mainland India in counter-attack..

Iron Age vedic era Pakistanis had nothing to do with India. Modern day Pakistanis are simply superior to their indian counter-parts and ruling elite of the subcontinent.

There is alot of talk about Aryan expansion in Indian history and that expansion was by today's so-called aryans who were the current day Pakistan..

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The Proto-Aryans are often mistakenly confused with Indics but the only thing they did is some of them expanded southwards towards Indian subcontinent and the journey down south was due to economical reasons. They have done close to 10-15 incursions into the Indian main land in the last 3000 years including the Islamic expansions as majority of the Punjabis and current day Pakistan were muslims for atleast 1100+ years they tagged along. but as for their previous expansions pre-Islam it is known as the Aryan expansions today.

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I hope this was sarcasm.
If not.. You need education.

In 1965 the official claim is stalemate but in reality they lost as we were inside their country upon ceasefire declaration we were winning..


while in 1948 they lost Gilgit B and Azad Kashmir but in the official neural standby it puts it nicely without enraging the indians but the fact is that they lost the territories coventionally but on the other hand indians successfully managed to defend Jammu and Kashmir? What does this tell you? that they lost a sizeable land larger then Austria to a newly formed country with only 20m population in 1948.. The official neutral standpoint is stalemate but it never was a stalemate..

I wish u get more victories like this. 🤟
 
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so it was 10 million each between east and west give or take?
we went from 10 million to 220 million is 75 years!!
One thing is clear, no nation can make babies like Pakistani.

According to 1951 census, both West and East Pakistan had a total population of 75.7 million, in which West Pakistan had a population of 33.7 million.

As in all things with this rivalry of ours, why on earth are you guys competing with us in bluster, and historical rhodomontade.

Its our core competency:D
Leave it to the ubermensch doing it since the big bang.

Chaskay-daar thread hae. :lol:
 

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Highly Ridiculous Thread. :astagh:
Chaskay-daar thread hae. :lol:
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Don't you like funny and comic videos, of jokers and clowns? :lol:

Paajee Dr. Syed Rizwan Ahmed has single-handedly been taking on various ridiculous fundamentalist muslim maulvis, politicians, spokespersons, and groups across national news channels and you tube and has millions of followers.

I know most muslims do not like him because he speaks uncomfortable "inside" truths which the rest of us are not supposed to know.

But there are many others too. A couple of young very articulate muslim ladies. A couple of pretty senior muslim ladies who make the mullas turn tail and run. There are some from your side like Tarek Fatah and Arif Ajakia. Both true sons of our soil and openly self declared converted Sanatanis.

You may call him a joker. But are any of his facts (in the video, historic names, places, dates, references) wrong? I always make it a point to hear both sides but the conservative Hindu-hostile muslim samudai is losing its narrative here.
 

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I always make it a point to hear both sides but the conservative Hindu-hostile muslim samudai is losing its narrative here.
India me on the ground toh long since lost it's narrative, that type of discourse..

is forum pe understandable hai ki some Pakistanio ka wohi perspective hai, in fact, since 2014, aur zyada entrench and harden ho get log.

meri salah lein, toh, inko pehle apna ghar samhalna chahiye, wahan aag lagi hai hui har karmrae me, leadron ko goli maari ja rahi bc :flame:
 

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Since he's from Lucknow and huge on nationalism I used to think he's a Shia. But turns out in actual fact he is Sunni.
 

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India me on the ground toh long since lost it's narrative, that type of discourse..

is forum pe understandable hai ki some Pakistanio ka wohi perspective hai, in fact, since 2014, aur zyada entrench and harden ho get log.

meri salah lein, toh, inko pehle apna ghar samhalna chahiye, wahan aag lagi hai hui har karmrae me, leadron ko goli maari ja rahi bc :flame:

Mai unko koi salah nahin dena chahta. Turns out it makes them more hostile and they start resenting us. Dekh Hindu gyaan baant raha hai types. Lungis believe we and the US is directly interfering in their politics and country. True. Their entire politics is the story of post liberation power grab and murder. Between a civilian leader and his military general. And they blame us. So best to learn from them and engage. Maal lena hai to lo. Varna market bahut bada hai.
 

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Is this post supposed to be taken seriously? Not everyone in Pakistan is fair in complexion, neither tall or broad. Pakistan is lagging behind India in every aspect.

India and Pakistan are essentially two third world countries. However, the fact is that India has been doing way better than Pakistan since partition on every front. Their economic performance; research, innovation and development; and soft power is way above Pakistan.

Pakistan lost a wing essentially due to infighting, whereas Gilgit Baltistan was never under Indian control. In 1948, Pakistan moved swifty and took control of as much Kashmir as it could before India could counter back (effectively). It was strategically the most obvious and correct move. Every war afterwards except for 1971 turned out to be a stalemate.

The only real war (unlike a skirmish) India and Pakistan will ever have again will be a war towards total obliteration of Pakistan and major destruction of Indian North. Pakistan has sought nuclear weapons not to conquer India but to deter India from conquest of Pakistan.

Are you the typical leftist Muhajir on your usual 20 + year old "India's developing" rant? You've been ranting it for over 20 years, isn't it getting old now?

Pakistan has missiles that can hit anywhere in India not just the North.

In a nuclear war, all of India would be destroyed and vice versa. There is no imaginary force field protecting the rest of India from Pakistan counter missile attacks.

So you think having the world's largest poor population is an example of development? What about the fact that it's one of the world's dirtiest and filthiest? More poverty than all of Africa https://www.etindia.org/more-poor-in-india-than-africa/

So much for economic growth. I'll bet countries with smaller economies like Qatar or Denmark are dying of jealousy :mad:

Isn't it time the muhajir left and their wishful Sindhi elite sidekicks get a reality check? No disrespect to all Muhajirs.
 
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Mai unko koi salah nahin dena chahta. Turns out it makes them more hostile and they start resenting us. Dekh Hindu gyaan baant raha hai types. Lungis believe we and the US is directly interfering in their politics and country. True. Their entire politics is the story of post liberation power grab and murder. Between a civilian leader and his military general. And they blame us. So best to learn from them and engage. Maal lena hai to lo. Varna market bahut bada hai.
Lungis, specifically is forum waalon ki to baat na karo... ungrateful little $hits perpetually lashing out against papa. West waaley also used to look down upon and discriminate against them, fir baad me azaadi/mukti dilai, to baday papa ne. Tough rahi hai unki existence, still searching for an identity, our adversaries by comparison have many a redeeming (good even) quality about them.

And true, bhot purana game of thrones ka tradition hai Pakistan me, army vs civvie admin ka. Guess we'll have to do the cleaning up at some stage, again .. :sigh: :rolleyes:
 

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Are you the typical leftist Muhajir on your usual 20 + year old "India's developing" rant? You've been ranting it for over years, isn't it getting old now?

Pakistan has missiles that can hit anywhere in India not just the North.

In a nuclear war, all of India would be destroyed and vice versa. There is no imaginary force field protecting the rest of India from Pakistan counter missile attacks.

So you think having the world's largest poor population is an example of development? What about the fact that it's one of the world's dirtiest and filthiest? More poverty than all of Africa https://www.etindia.org/more-poor-in-india-than-africa/

So much for economic growth. I'll countries with smaller economies like Qatar or Denmark are dying of jealousy :mad:

Isn't it time the muhajir left and their wishful Sindhi elite sidekicks get a reality check? No disrespect to all Muhajirs.

Pakistani situation sem2sem.

Moving swiftly along.

Lungis, specifically is forum waalon ki to baat na karo... ungrateful little $hits perpetually lashing out against papa. West waaley also used to look down upon and discriminate against them, fir baad me azaadi/mukti dilai, to baday papa ne. Tough rahi hai unki existence, still searching for an identity, our adversaries by comparison have many a redeeming (good even) quality about them.

And true, bhot purana game of thrones ka tradition hai Pakistan me, army vs civvie admin ka. Guess we'll have to do the cleaning up at some stage, again .. :sigh: :rolleyes:

Our western brothers have zero redeeming qualities compared to our lungi brothers. It's only the punjabiyat in your DNA asserting itself. The only reason we respect them more is that they still fight us. And lungis never could. Bas. Woh bottom line hai. Baaki all qualities sem2sem hain. Remember take the ethnoracial stuff out and you get the real locha.
 

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Our western brothers have zero redeeming qualities compared to our lungi brothers. It's only the punjabiyat in your DNA asserting itself. The only reason we respect them more is that they still fight us. And lungis never could. Bas. Woh bottom line hai. Baaki all qualities sem2sem hain. Remember take the ethnoracial stuff out and you get the real locha.
lol

could be my part Punjabiat too.. kinship si feel hondi with a lot (not all) our parosis to the west lol.. hai kuch lafra DNA ka shayad.. not so much with fellow desis to the east, north east, deep south, south east.

A lot of those places/cultures feel so far removed from my native zhit, even as I've made it my home.

Funny place, this dunia..
 

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