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    If you can read Chinese, read that news. Fanny Law, a member of HK Exceutive Council, has confirmed this is a true case. There should have more cases like this, just have not reported yet, a tip of iceberg.

    羅范又稱已確認真有此事:「我聽到有人談及有關免費性愛之事,我相信我們已確認是真有此事,我們對於這些少女被誤導而提供免費性愛感到悲哀。(I heard somebody talking about free sex. I think we have confirmed that this is a true case. I am so sad to these young girls, who has been misled into offering free sex.)」

    https://www.hk01.com/政情/373106/逃犯條例-羅范椒芬-少女被誤導-為-勇武派-提供免費性服務
     
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    Hong Kong protests: police given medical reports of woman with eye injury despite her bid to block move
    • Police earlier obtained a search warrant after woman and her family ignored their efforts to get hold of her medical records
    • Force now reviewing information but statement from the witness is most important, senior officer says
    Hong Kong police have been given the medical records of a young woman who suffered a serious eye injury during a violent protest despite her attempt to legally block the move.

    Police earlier obtained a search warrant from a court after the woman and her family ignored their efforts to get hold of her medical reports. It was later reported that the woman had issued a legal letter through her lawyers to the Hospital Authority to block the police’s bid.

    The woman has become an icon of the anti-government protests that have roiled Hong Kong for more than three months and has featured on posters and slogans as a testament to “police brutality”.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.sc...otests-police-given-medical-reports-woman-eye
     
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    China summons German envoy over Hong Kong activist meeting

    Wed Sep 11, 2019

    China’s ambassador to Berlin says Beijing has summoned the German envoy to protest a meeting between Germany’s Foreign Minister Heiko Maas and Hong Kong activist Joshua Wong, warning that the encounter could negatively affect bilateral relations.

    Wong arrived in Berlin on Monday night. He was received by the German diplomat amid ongoing protests in the semi-autonomous region, which Beijing blames on foreign forces.

    Ambassador Wu Ken told reporters on Wednesday, “What happened now, I unfortunately have to say, will have negative consequences on bilateral relations and the Chinese side has to react.”

    “After his arrival we took note that unfortunately certain politicians - and I will say very openly that it is Foreign Minister Maas himself - as well as some members of parliament met with Joshua Wong,” the Chinese ambassador said.

    “We don’t know what goal these politicians have. Are they actually seriously concerned about Hong Kong’s freedom, democracy and rule of law or they want to add fuel to the fire and thereby make political capital out of it?”

    The Chinese envoy stressed that Beijing had sufficient evidence that foreign forces have intervened in Hong Kong demonstrations.

    China has said foreign countries, mainly the United States and Britain, have been provoking the protesters by issuing statements of support. Beijing has asked the two countries to stop meddling in Hong Kong’s affairs.

    “China’s sovereignty and security must be respected. I therefore advise politicians against covering up violent crimes and meddling with Hong Kong’s and China’s internal affairs,” Wu Ken said on Wednesday.

    Unrest began in Hong Kong in June, when people started taking to the streets to protest a proposed bill that would have allowed suspects to be extradited and stand trial abroad.

    The bill was suspended later that month in the wake of the unrest. The protesters have, however, rejected the suspension, calling for a full withdrawal of the measure. The demonstrations have also expanded into a broader backlash against the government and calls for the city’s pro-China leader to step down.

    Earlier this month, Chief Executive of Hong Kong Carrie Lam announced that the unpopular extradition bill would be withdrawn at the next session of the city’s Legislative Council, scheduled for next month. Lam expressed hope that the annulment of the bill would end the unrest.

    The move, however, failed to calm the demonstrators.

    The protesters’ other demands include retraction of the word “riot” to describe demonstrations and the release of all those arrested during the rallies.

    Hong Kong has been governed under a “one-country, two-system” model since the city, a former British colony, was returned to China in 1997.


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    1. Hong Kong activist Joshua Wong, left, shakes hands with German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas as they attend the "Bild100" event organised by Germany's tabloid Bild on September 9, 2019 in Berlin.


    http://web.archive.org/web/20190911...019/09/11/605928/China-German-envoy-Hong-Kong
    http://archive.fo/qvrI9


    Never trust the Germs! Meanwhile, during a recent London demonstration:


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    2. During a recent London demonstration.





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  4. Hamartia Antidote

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    Thousands form human chains around HKong schools
     
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    Police in Hong Kong have used tear gas and water cannons to disperse thousands of anti-Beijing protesters on Sunday. Protesters had been marching through the city when police fired water with blue dye at them. Earlier, they demonstrated outside the British Consulate calling on the UK to pressure China. Angela Murphy has more.
     
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    Hong Kong protests: The Taiwanese sending 2,000 gas masks


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    Image captionAlex Ko holding a gas mask in a church storage room

    Soft-spoken, bespectacled, and based 650km (400 miles) from Hong Kong, Alex Ko is far removed from the widespread protests sweeping the former British colony.

    But he's exactly the kind of person China is worried about.

    In recent weeks, when protesters were battling police on the streets of Hong Kong demanding universal suffrage, and their freedoms to be preserved by China, Mr Ko, 23, didn't just watch idly online.

    He launched a donation drive for gas masks, air filters and helmets at his church.

    He's since collected more than 2,000 sets of such gear, and sent them to Hong Kong protesters to protect them against tear gas regularly fired by the police.

    "I've never been to Hong Kong, but I feel I have no reason not to care," he says.

    "As a Christian, when we see people hurt and attacked, I feel we have to help them. [And] As a Taiwanese, I'm worried we may be next."

    While Hong Kong is a former British colony that reverted to Chinese sovereignty in 1997, Taiwan has been ruled separately since the end of the Chinese civil war in 1949. But Beijing sees the island as a province to be reunified with China one day - by force if necessary.

    Fears that China will one day control Taiwan, turning it into the next Hong Kong, have made Taiwan's government and people the strongest supporters of Hong Kong's protesters.

    Taiwan's government has repeatedly urged Beijing and Hong Kong's authorities to respond positively to protesters' demand for democracy - and fulfil their promises of maintaining freedoms and autonomy.

    And Taiwanese people - while previously more concerned about Hong Kong's Cantopop and dim sum - have turned out in increasingly large numbers to show support for the anti-extradition-turned-pro-democracy movement.

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    Image captionAround 300 students in Taipei formed a human chain to support the Hong Kong protesters in August
    "Even though Taiwan is separated from China by the Taiwan Strait, our political status is not a Special Administrative Region like Hong Kong," Mr Ko says.

    "We are not a part of China, it could invade us one day. By joining forces [with Hong Kong], we are stronger. One day we might need their help too."

    Beijing meanwhile has accused Taiwan, along with the United States, of being "black hands" fomenting the protests.

    While there's no evidence of Taiwan helping to organise or fund the protests at a state level, there has been contact between activists since Hong Kong's Umbrella Movement and Taiwan's Sunflower Movement in 2014. Both stemmed from fears of Beijing rolling back democracy in their respective societies.

    Hong Kong democracy activists, such as Joshua Wong, have visited Taiwan to meet Taiwan's activists. The founding of Mr Wong's Demosisto party was reportedly inspired by Taiwan's New Power Party.

    The recent storming and trashing of Hong Kong's parliament also mirrored a similar incident in Taipei, Taiwan's capital. And Taiwan's ruling party and an opposition party recently voiced support for granting asylum to Hong Kong protesters who need it.

    This joining of hands by Hong Kong and Taiwan could mean double the trouble for Beijing. But not everyone thinks Taiwan will be the next Hong Kong.

    "Taiwan has independence and democracy; what Hong Kong people are fighting for, we already have - universal suffrage," says Yen Hsiao-lien, a retired lawyer.

    She and others want reduced tensions with Beijing and peaceful coexistence. They worry the Hong Kong protests will help Taiwan's President Tsai Ing-wen - whose administration is seen by many as unnecessarily making relations with Beijing worse - win a second term in next January's presidential race.

    Since the protests, President Tsai's approval ratings have risen significantly. President Tsai, from the pro-Taiwan independence ruling Democratic Progressive Party (DPP), is ahead of Han Kuo-yu from the opposition Kuomintang (KMT).

    None of this is lost on Beijing, says academic Andy Chang.

    Partly because of fears of President Tsai being re-elected, Beijing was willing to withdraw Hong Kong's extradition bill in early September when faced with large-scale protests, Mr Chang says.

    "It [the Chinese government] doesn't want to give Tsai Ing-wen more advantage in the upcoming election," he says.

    But China's leaders will only give in so much. They are more concerned about their biggest perceived threat - instability and challenges to their power from within.

    They think democracy movements could destabilise the country, usurp their power - or become tools for their rivals to oust them.

    "They feel if they totally accept the protesters' demands, it will release the floodgates and make other places in the mainland become unstable. After all, the kid who cries gets candy," says Mr Chang.

    "It doesn't want to show that people who use forceful methods to make their demands will get Beijing's support. This is totally different from how leaders in a democratic society think."

    Increasingly, Beijing is taking action to discourage Taiwanese people from supporting their neighbour's fight for freedom and self-rule.

    Recently, Chinese authorities arrested Taiwanese businessman Lee Meng-chu on suspicion of taking part in activities that threaten national security. Mr Lee's friends say he is an ordinary small trading company owner who simply visited Hong Kong protesters to cheer them up, two days before crossing the border into mainland China.

    But, in a show of defiance, Taiwanese people have helped previously detained Hong Kong bookseller Lam Wing-kee raise money to reopen his Causeway Bay bookstore in Taipei.

    His Hong Kong store sold politically sensitive books about Chinese leaders and mailed them to the mainland, which led to him and four colleagues to be detained in 2015. The store was later shut down. Mr Lam fled to Taiwan in April, because of the extradition bill.

    In just the past week, Taiwanese donors helped him raise more than $5.4m Taiwanese dollars ($174,000; £140,000) in his crowdfunding campaign - nearly double his funding goal.

    Slowly but surely, the people of Hong Kong and Taiwan see their fate as tied.

    They are the only two places in Greater China that have tasted freedom - and some believe by joining forces, they could show the Chinese leadership and people how much democracy is worth fighting for.

    But Mr Ko advises Hong Kong's protesters to use non-violent means, and learn from Taiwan's experience of using peaceful methods to achieve democracy.

    "I think peaceful methods are necessary for the protesters," he says. "It might help them to think about what kind of [society] they want Hong Kong to become - safe and peaceful, or violent."
     
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    100 days of protests in Hong Kong
     
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    Ungrateful Hong Kong folks :o:
    Once they will see the world , after they are kicked out exiled they will realize how the world will treat them outside China

    To have chance to be holding Chinese Passport , and unlimited support from Chinese Government these protestors are just delusional

    They do realize China , gave territory to UK under a past treaty but it was not forever
     
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    I see some resemblance with the yellow vest or the planner behind it is the same.
     
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    Their is almost 0% coverage of yellow vest protest ....in my part of western world
    French are keeping a tight lip on their dirty laundry
     
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    This has nothing to do with yellow vest protest in France, that's why our mainstream media is mute about what has been happening in Paris. Both protests are in fact standing in opposition.

    Hong Hong riots are supported by the banking cartel, French yellow vest protests are against the banking cartel!
     
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    Finally, Hitler and the nazis makes an appearance in Hong Kong.
     
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    Thanks for the clarification.
     
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    Why all of them need to cover their faces? they are ashamed of themselves?
     
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    Supported by western countries to create mayhem and instability in HK to contain China. That level of vandalism and criminal activity is not acceptable in any society. Hope China send the police from the main land and all those masked tugs should be caught and tried in the main land, on one of basis case and see how protestors balloon will burst.
     
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