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Hong Kong braces for protests as government shuts offices

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  1. Feng Leng

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    Hong Kong braces for protests as government shuts offices

    Hong Kong braced for the possibility of more anti-government protests on Thursday after scenes of violence and chaos rocked the normally peaceful global trade and finance center a day earlier.

    Riot police were visible on the street near the local legislature — the epicenter of Wednesday's turmoil — but their presence was lighter, as rain poured down on the city before skies later cleared. There were few signs of protesters in the area.

    Still, government offices in the financial district were closed for the rest of the week due to the protests and the main subway station servicing the area near the Legislative Council — the assembly's official name — remained shut.

    Police and demonstrators clashed for hours on Wednesday as citizens protested Chief Executive Carrie Lam's proposed legal amendments that would allow people in Hong Kong to be extradited to mainland China.

    Protesters gathered at the legislature because lawmakers were scheduled to debate the plan, but they ultimately could not because of the disruption caused by the protest.

    And on Thursday, Legco — as the Legislative Council is informally known — announced in a statement that there would be no meeting that day either.

    Wednesday's violence broke out outside the legislature after it was surrounded by demonstrators. Police wielding batons and riot shields fired tear gas and rubber bullets at the crowds, and protesters used open umbrellas in defense, with some throwing objects at police.

    The government said a total of 79 people had been injured and hospitalized as of 11 a.m. local time Thursday, with two described as in serious condition.

    Lam, who has refused to withdraw or delay the extradition plan, held her ground and condemned the protests as "intolerable" in a Wednesday evening video address.

    "Clearly, this is no longer a peaceful assembly but a blatant, organised riot, and in no way an act of loving Hong Kong," she said.

    One country, two systems

    The protests, which kicked off over the weekend with a massive rally, underscore worries about what is seen as a broader erosion of Hong Kong's rights and freedoms in relation to China.

    Hong Kong citizens, who enjoy a British-based legal system independent from the rest of China, fear the plan could threaten those judicial protections and their broader autonomy as well.

    "The general perception is that the law is ... designed to create some kind of deterrence effect against the pro-democracy movement and the dissidents in Hong Kong," Joseph Cheng, a pro-democracy advocate and retired professor of political science, said Thursday on CNBC's "Squawk Box."

    The territory of 7.4 million people, formerly part of the British Empire, has been a specially administered region of China since July 1, 1997.

    It has its own government, currency, police force and civil service. Under a unique "one country, two systems" framework, China handles foreign affairs and defense and the the People's Liberation Army maintains a small garrison but keeps a low profile.

    Lam, who says the legal changes are necessary, categorically denied Monday the idea that they were proposed by the central government in Beijing. Still, the Chinese government is on record as backing the bill, though Beijing has denied trying to water down Hong Kong's autonomy.

    "Hong Kong people's rights and freedoms have been fully guaranteed," Geng Shuang, a Chinese foreign ministry spokesman, said at a regular briefing Wednesday in Beijing.

    'Tyranny opens fire'

    The violence appeared to shock Hong Kong.

    Local newspapers carried photos of the clashes on their front pages. "Tyranny opens fire on us," the liberal Apple Daily wrote in Chinese on its front page over a photo of riot police squaring off with demonstrators.

    "I'm hurt. It's sad," a local government worker, who requested anonymity, told CNBC on Thursday morning. "It's dangerous," he said of the violence that rocked the city.

    Police said that 240,000 people participated at the peak of Sunday's protest that saw throngs march down a main street shouting slogans and carrying signs denouncing the legislation and demanding Lam resign.

    Organizers, however, claimed a turnout of slightly more than 1 million. The last time Hong Kong saw a protest of such scale was in 2003 when an estimated 500,000 people rallied against a proposed security law that also raised fears of closer links to China.

    Hong Kong's Hang Seng index has taken a hit, closing 1.73% lower on Wednesday after slumping as much as 2% in the afternoon session, amid the street clashes. It continued its slide Thursday, initially falling about 1% before recovering about half of the losses.

    The protestors are winning if the HKSAR government is shutting down its offices. There is no way the protestors could continue if the police were serious about cracking down on them. This means the HK police are actually on the side of the protestors. They are deliberately handling them with kid gloves. The HKSAR government is losing control. Elements disloyal to Beijing have infiltrated.

    It's time for the PLA to move in with tanks and drive from New Territories to Central. Shower the protestors with white phosphorus and crush them underneath our Type 099A2 tanks! Reduce the population of HK so much that every survivor will have enough space to live in detached housing like Americans.
     
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    My personal view.

    1, Beijing should immediately tell the world the "Two Systems" in HK will be ended by 2047. As Deng Xiaoping promised to keep everything unchanged for 50 years. There will be only ONE system by then. Those who don't like it should leave HK before that day.
    2, No more new law related to mainland anymore. It's not necessary cause everything needs to be restarted 28 years later. Don't give any excuse to those traitors anymore to make chaos in HK. Just silently wait till 2047. These traitors will either leave or be punched with no mercy.
    3, No more economic priority for HK. Beijing already got bad reputation in HK. Let the bad reputation become reality.
     
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    You are in favor of surrender, I see.
     
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    The PRC should have done something in 2014 with the umbrella movement the problem is I think in the 90s most officials in Beijing thought HKers being Chinese would welcome them in open arms boy were they wrong
     
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    Back in the 1960s and 1970s, Hong Kong (especially the laborer class) was a hot bed for socialist sympathizers who hated the British imperialists and couldn't wait to be reunited with the motherland. There were laborer riots against the British colonialist system. Now the dumb young people in Hong Kong think being anti-China is fashionable, wave the British colonial flag around and the authorities don't do enough to crack down on this toxin, letting it spread. How the times have changed.
     
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    The problem was you let them to loose tbh the British screwed their minds up instead of letting the same system fester or throwing needles money to HK
     
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    They hate whoever in power.
     
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    What is great about this, is the Washington regime's support for 'freedom' and 'liberty' (anti-extradition) is a new path to a better future. Not only is Washington rejecting the extradition from US territories and Puerto Rico, they reject all extraditions to the Washington Regime. Why? because extradition is incompatible with the new values of Amerikka (as show in their support of HK).

    It is a new development that Washington no longer supports the extradition of Huawei CFO to Amerikka or any extradition whatsoever, because Amerikka is the 'land of the free'. This can't be another case of Washington hates China... what Washington does, China can't do.

    And since democracy means no extradition, China should have extradition and Washington, the 'beacon of democracy', should have no extradition.
     
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    Ironic. Enjoying the freedom of speech to speak/protest against your government while support that denied the same to some class of people to a different region?

    This just proves one thing. Chinese mainland can never survive full freedom of expression, protests rights to people for more than 50 years. CCP is just a glass house.
     
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    What a house India is?
     
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    But freedom of expression itself is an obstacle to a country's development.

    Beijing has something more important to deal with. HK shouldn't attract China's too much attention. It's a trap set by America.
     
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    India might not be perfect. But definitely doesnt pick up people in the middle of the night or censures anyone who speak against the government.

    That's your opinion. The problem is without a somewhat free press nobody can point out any government wrongs or bring corruption allegations against the President or show some party official is doing corruption. I saw some people are arrested for being spy's for writing or protesting against an government decision.

    China's model of growth might be even a great story if it had space for dissent.
     
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    India doesn't pick up people in the middle of the night. They only rape and kill in Kashmir and then just say Counter-terrorism.:disagree:
     
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    Chinese talking about Kashmir.... :cheesy::cheesy::alcoholic::suicide2::closed:

    Oh yes. I wont even talk about Tibet or Xinjiang... :big_boss:

    The last time I saw people are still allowed to protest in the streets of Srinagar, their separatist leaders meeting media everyday. Wow. It cant be imagined in a glass house called China.. Come back with something solid. Even Pakistanis have a moral right to speak on it. The Chinese- Zero.

    This is what i spoke about. The CHinese cant take criticism.
     
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    Criticism from an IGNORANT? No thank you, whatever you spoke about LOL

    Freedom of expression is as long guided by law, manners and rules is OK, the problem is some sheeples in HK that swallowed narratives pushed from foreign entity like their daily supplement.

    HK is part of China, and whoever and whatever that stirring-up chaos can't change that. Those dumb-*ss seems don't care even entire HK turn into floating fiery piles as long they satisfied whoever that fund and organized them under false pretext, they're 'zombies'. But HK itself that will pay all consequences that caused by these 'zombies' and their foreign entities master, those that have (non-zombies) sanity will learn that. Is time for China HK rulers to dealt foreign backed agent NGO's and breed more pro-development local NGO's.
     
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