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I don't know why exacly people bother about gays or Lesbos ... It's their nature... they're happy in that way....... so let them be.
I remember my saudi friend saying it's a great sin in Islam and in Saudi they hang those people publicly
 

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I don't know why exacly people bother about gays or Lesbos ... It's their nature... they're happy in that way....... so let them be.
I remember my saudi friend saying it's a great sin in Islam and in Saudi they hang those people publicly
Actually its not about right and wrong but Saudi Arabia is the biggest hypocrite nation in the world. They will say they have very low crime rate and all that sh*ts but they themselves know it very well how repressive bad a country Saudi Arabia is.
 

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This guy said Bangladesh needs 'Musalmani Bangla' with Arabic letters. I don't have respect for this guy who wants to change his mother tongue.
still he is human, not animal. :coffee:
people have their beliefs and ideas, dont degrade yourself by showing unnecessary hatred.
 

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still he is human, not animal. :coffee:
people have their beliefs and ideas, dont degrade yourself by showing unnecessary hatred.
He hates his mother tongue and said extremely offensive comments to Bangladeshis. He said since Bangladeshi Bangla is Hindu Bangla he needs 'Musalmani Bangla' with holy Arabic letters to make Malaun Bangla an Islamic language. Is he human?
 

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He hates his mother tongue and said extremely offensive comments to Bangladeshis. He said since Bangladeshi Bangla is Hindu Bangla he needs 'Musalmani Bangla' with holy Arabic letters to make Malaun Bangla an Islamic language. Is he human?
Dude. This is the internet.

I have found out long ago, by reacting to trolling on the internet, you waste away your time

Don't take them seriously. Chillax :cheers:
 

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Not only do women have to cover themselves up from head to toe, now they have to watch their men woo other men. Mus be tough being a Saudi woman.
 

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How murder exposed Saudi prince's homosexual life
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A Saudi prince has been jailed for life for murdering his manservant, who was found beaten to death in bed at a plush London hotel. The defendant spent most of the trial trying to prove he was not gay. Why?

Before his trial began at the Old Bailey, Prince Saud bin Abdulaziz bin Nasir al Saud made strenuous efforts to keep the question of his homosexuality secret.

The 34-year-old prince admitted he had assaulted his manservant, Bandar Abdulaziz, but denied murder.

His barrister, John Kelsey-Fry QC, argued the question of sexuality was irrelevant to the case and pointed out homosexual acts were a "mortal sin" under Islamic sharia law.

Mr Kelsey-Fry said if the prince was outed as a homosexual he could face execution in his native Saudi Arabia.





The couple stayed for almost a month at the Landmark Hotel in London

Jonathan Laidlaw QC, prosecuting, argued that if he was convicted and recommended for deportation after serving his sentence he would be able to claim asylum in Britain by arguing that his life was in danger, whether or not he actually was gay.

He said it was not for a defendant "to edit the prosecution evidence".


Bandar Abdulaziz was an orphan

Christoph Wilcke, a Saudi Arabia expert with Human Rights Watch, said homosexuals had in the past been executed but it was usually for rape and he said a prince would be immune from court action.

When the trial began, Mr Kelsey-Fry went to great lengths to stress his client denied he was gay.

But a string of witnesses suggested otherwise.

A hotel porter, Dobromir Dimitrov, himself homosexual, said: "I would describe them as a gay couple."

But Mr Kelsey-Fry, cross examining Mr Dimitrov, told him: "It is not accepted that this was in fact a gay couple - but I readily accept that you had the impression they were a gay couple."

Two male escorts, Pablo Silva and Louis Szikora, also gave evidence they had performed sex acts on the prince.

Although the prince never gave evidence, during police interviews he insisted he was heterosexual and had a girlfriend in Saudi Arabia.

But Mr Laidlaw said this was a lie: "The defendant's keeping back of his homosexuality might in other circumstances, because of the cultural background perhaps, be explained away by embarrassment, or indeed, fear.

"But the defendant's concealing of the sexual aspect to his abuse of the victim was, we will argue, for altogether more sinister reasons."

When he was found in the bed in Room 312 of the Landmark Hotel in central London, the victim had bite marks on his cheeks. The police also found naked photographs of him on the prince's mobile

All this, suggested Mr Laidlaw, suggested a "sexual element" to the abuse which led to the victim's death.

His royal heritage could not save the prince from British justice
The prince, whose mother was one of 50 children of the late King Saud, paid for his 32-year-old manservant to fly around the world and stay in the best hotels.

Together in London they went shopping, dined in the best restaurants and drank champagne and cocktails in swanky nightclubs.

They shared a bed but the prince frequently subjected his manservant to violent attacks, such as the beating which was captured on the CCTV camera in a hotel lift three weeks before Bandar Abdulaziz's death.

In the footage, the victim makes no attempt to fight back and afterwards walks meekly after his master like a scolded dog.

Professor Gregory Gause, a Saudi Arabia expert, said: "Homosexuality is considered extremely shameful in Saudi Arabia and there is not a publicly acknowledged homosexual community.

"It's still closeted. But, for young Saudi men, contact with the opposite sex is extremely difficult so there might be a temptation to experiment before marriage," said Prof Gause, from the University of Vermont.

He said about 5,000 Saudi princes get a yearly stipend of about $200,000 (£126,000), but some were "fabulously wealthy".

Lift assault
An insight into the prince's bashfulness about his homosexuality was given by one of the escorts, Mr Szikora, who described visiting the prince for a two-hour "erotic" session three days before the murder.

He said: "The man I met ultimately did want sexual massage but it is like mixing Nigel Havers with Omar Sharif. You have to build some rapport.

"Middle Eastern gentlemen, they are not as open about what they want as people in the West."

The prince's father, Prince Abdulaziz, attended his son's trial at the Old Bailey
Whatever the exact relationship between the prince and his manservant, when he overstepped the mark with his beatings and inflicted fatal injuries on Bandar, he tried to conceal it by concocting a cover story.

He claimed his manservant had been beaten up and robbed of 3,000 euros in Edgware Road three weeks before, and suggested those injuries must have led to his death.

His lies were exposed by the post mortem, which showed the injuries were fresh, and by CCTV footage in the lift, which showed it was the prince who inflicted those earlier injuries.

He later admitted causing the injuries which led to Bandar's death.

Now the prince has been jailed for life and ordered to spend up to 20 years behind bars in Britain before being deported back to Saudi Arabia.

But Mr Wilcke said: "Irrespective of the court verdict, his humiliation has already taken place. A family council will have been held and he will probably have his money cut off."



This CCTV footage taken inside the hotel's lift exposed the prince's lies and proved he had been ill-treating his manservant

BBC News - How murder exposed Saudi prince's homosexual life
 
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