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Historical background of landlords, generals and religious families of Pakistan

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  1. The Accountant

    The Accountant SENIOR MEMBER

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    Our current political, military and religious leadership is the same that bettayed our nation in the past and worked for britain. Here is a glimose of past when they actively fought for britain ...

    They got all these lands higher positions in armed forces and gaddi of differnt peer in compensation of loyalty to east india company. Basically they sold their nation and same people are sitting in parliament, judiciary, GHQ. They have family lineage.

     
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  2. Pan-Islamic-Pakistan

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    Always a pleasure reading Orya Maqbool Jan. I will watch and let you know my thoughts.

    Thanks for sharing.
     
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  3. The Accountant

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    Propaganda ? Sir these are historical facts.

    How can u deny it ?
     
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    Didn't Jinnah, Iqbal, Syed, Aga Khan etc work for British interest? (not saying that any other nations founding fathers created by British empire were any better).
     
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    It’s not same but colonization caused lion and the sheep to end up in a blender. some people have coward mentality. It’s genetic disposition that will not go away easily.
     
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    Just saw the thumbnail, it seems to be a stupid anti-Semitic propaganda, this Maqbool Jan is a fan of Hitler too..
     
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  7. The Accountant

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    There is a difference between working with britosh empire and working for empire.

    Iqbal, quaid and sir syed worked with british for welfare of local people and they got no properties in return.

    Those people who work for british against interest of local people were traitors and got lands properties and money in return of services

    How is it propaganda when these figures are historical records

    How this is against political opponents when such people are in every political party be it PTI, PPP and PMLN.

    Didnt get what r u trying to say
     
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    Excellent take on this issue, working with British to help your community to get adequate rights under British empire vs working for the British against the interests of your own community for purely personal gains in the form of land allocations and other kinds of government awarded perks and privileges in your local area.
     
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  9. The Accountant

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    Did i took any name ? Did i named any particular party ?

    I am just describing historical facts which are oublically available. If someone fits on that bill then its not my problem. It will be categorized as fact mot propaganda.

    U r assuming something which dont exist.
     
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    this is only the reason feudals got upper hands on top positions at Govt offices and their major tool was nepotism not merit.

    It is observed that majority of them enjoy kleptocracy under the cover of democracy & patriotism because of their affiliation, love & attraction with their master's footprints just for enjoying the luxuries & comfortable life weather nation suffering from crises or not they dont bother a bit.
     
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    Oreo supported Imran Khan.

    Nuff Said !!
     
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    Oreo saheb is a product of the same system. Amazing how he completely refuses to acknowledge it. Oh well, that's Pakistan for you. Everyone else is bad, I am the only Angel.
     
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    Sorry, anyone who maintains sympathy for TTP and Daesh is an enemy of Pakistan.
    Same goes with utterly shameless supporters of ethnic parties.
     
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    So since when did British empire cared about welfare of the people of its colony? You mean the time when they enslaved millions of people and shipped them across the world in south africa, caribbean islands etc or when they massacred anybody who raised against British imperialism or when they plundered and looted rich dynamic society (the leadership was weak of that time however the people were very progressive of its time) and turned it into a poor beggars society? or when they caused famine resulting in millions of death?
    British empire is nothing like other empires in the past who came in and left. This empire actually planned a strategic retreat 50-80 years before giving independence to its colony.
    They made careful selections of locals who were loyal to the empire and gave them important positions that would serve their interest.
    NONE of the people you mentioned spoke against British empire like I have done without even putting much effort. All they did was a "REQUEST" while meeting imperialists terms and conditions because they were all working for them.
    Even though British empire is gone but their corrupt system lives on.

    not every sinister gain is in form of monetary gain. Secret agents will spend their entire life working for their masters and in return they get no land allocations or million dollar check.
     
  15. The Accountant

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    You are mixing a lot of things. Agreed Britain planned much earlier at end of first of world war to leave India. However, there was no plan to divide and give muslims a separate state.

    The people you are talking about created the awareness of separate nation. Allama Iqbal, was the first to realize that in the democratic world it will just be change of masters and Hindus have hold of bureaucracy and economy will keep muslims enslaved gave the idea of a separate nation.

    Quaid-e-azam fought the election and convince the local population to vote for muslim league so that they can represents muslims in negotiating the independence plan.

    Furthermore, Quaid-e-Azam and Allama Iqbal didnt work for britain. They worked for Pakistan mulsim league who won election in 1946 from muslim majority areas and hence represented those areas. As per democratic standards of Britain that had to incorporate demand of the leaders of the areas where muslim league won.
     
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