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Hijacking faith: How an extremist Deobandi ideology rules the Barelvi major

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  1. Zarvan

    Zarvan ELITE MEMBER

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    Mr have you ever bothered to read his work proof one single work of him against Quran and Sunnah Mr I have read his work everything was from Quran and Sunnah from no where else and when I ask others to proof there points from Quran and Sunnah they run away like cowards @hasnain0099
     
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    Bhai meray, whats the point you want to me prove? The person who provided the blood thirsty sword of Al-Saud with a religious reason is a well known chapter in the modern the history of Arabia. The person's own father and brother, who were well reputed scholars, refused to accept his beliefs.
     
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    Since this discussion has already been started, understanding the credibility of the person should be in first place before dwelling into details. A. Wahab was disapproved, dishonoured and refuted by Ahlus-Sunnah wal jama'a and before anyone else, by his great learned father and brother who were Hanbali. None of his work is according to Quran and Sunnah as he refused all the opinions and rulings of the Imams of Ahlus-Sunnah except those of Ibn Taymiyyah and his student Ibnul Qayyim.

    Cults like wahabis, salafis, ahlul khabees etc are all deviants by not following Ahlus-Sunnah. Simple formula. Story ends here.
     
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    Well vice versa I was a Wahhabi, and by the way you have never been a barelvi ever because your statement here prove your fore father may be barailvi but u have no idea what it is all about. You been taken by the preachers powered by Saudi Riyals backed by west. I am my self a student of Wahabbi Deobundi sect but I have enlighten my self on both side and chosen to be barailvi as this is the best way described to be a Muslim then any other sect and please don't mention what people do by themselves sect doesn't preach any thing wrong, but people make it by themselves and if someone cross the line he/she himself responsible for their act not the whole sect should be maligned.
     
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    I am allergic to you bullsh** please read his work like Kitab ut Tawheed and prove me one thing not according to Quran and Sunnah I have read it and checked it several times and other works too and all are according to Quran and Sunnah so please cut the nonsense

    Okay prove one action of Barelivis according to Quran and Sunnah and have you read main work of Abudl Wahab Kitab ut Tawheed Mr sect preaches bidats and other Un Islamic sects people of that sect only take those things to more extremes I have contacted many scholars of Barelvi and they don't come up to prove anything from Quran and Sunnah Mr they go here and there but not come on Quran and Sunnah so if you can proof please do it

    All his works are according to Quran and Sunnah I have read all of them its others who are providing Bidats and following Imam is not the order order is to follow Quran and Sunnah and every Imam statement will be judged accoreding to that and every Imam said if you have my saying going against authentic Hadees throw it away and follow Hadees so who is giving more importance to IMAM than ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW and who is acting ahlul Khabees is those who blindly follow IMAMs
     
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    Firstly, am Hanbali, means I follow Hanbali fiqh. Probably Barelvis given you lot of nightmares as per your tendencies :omghaha:. Don't waste your energy on me stating Barelvis etc. Staunch traditional sunni ulama of Ahlus-Sunnah disregard A. Wahab stating him a pathetic fitna and his followers as fitna mongers. Read AUTHENTIC history and sources. And why would I bother reading someone's lame work who came just 200 year back? Instead, I would take my deen from the versed scholars emerged right after Prophet saw and took religion directly from sahaba, taabain and taba taabain. With that said, I have read some of his work out of curiosity ONLY.

    What is your authority in deen that you entitled yourself to preach here? A wahabi pamphlet, leaflet distributor outside mosques?
     
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    Gone :crazy:. Our business is finished.
    Reported for swearing and disrespecting Imams and ulama of Ahlus-Sunnah.
     
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    Well something hard to digest is generally considered bullshit....:lol:
     
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    Mr yes bullshit because you are lying and not coming up with a single proof you are lying about a man teachings who basically taught nothing but Quran and Sunnah and proved the things wrong in light of Quran and Sunnah you are not basically lying about Abdul Wahab you are basically lying about Quran and Sunnah
     
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    :lol: What constitutes a proof for you? If Quran is interpreted as per personal beliefs then Ahamdis would also be correct in assuming that the meaning of Khatim doesn't mean the last but the key, thus invalidating the concept of khatm-e-nabuwat....
     
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    O Genius stop running away from question you have exposed yourself as a liar Mr bring proof from Quran and Sunnah which you have failed to do till yet so stop lying Mr
     
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    What "proof" do you want me to bring?
     
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    Read his works like Kitab ut Tawheed and others and proof one thing he has written in them is not according to Quran and Sunnah please tell me if you can't than please be quite and stop lying
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    Can anyone tell me the difference between deoband and barelvi?i have friends and i think they are brelvi(from punjab) but i have never noticed any difference.

    Pray in almost every mosque irrespective of it being of deobandi/barelvi/wahabi.
     
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