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Here's the New Marine Corps Weapon that Just Destroyed an Iranian Drone

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  1. F-22Raptor

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    A new Marine Corps anti-drone system that attaches to all-terrain vehicles and can scan the skies for enemy aircraft from aboard Navy ships was responsible for destroying an Iranian drone, Military.com has learned.

    The Marine Corps' Light Marine Air Defense Integrated System, known as LMADIS, jammed an Iranian drone that President Donald Trump said flew within 1,000 yards of a Navy warship in the Strait of Hormuz, a defense official said. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the mission.

    The California-based 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit deployed to the Middle East with the LMADIS, the defense official said. That unit, which includes about 2,200 Marines, is currently on a six-month sea deployment with the Navy's Boxer Amphibious Ready Group.

    Trump said the amphibious assault ship Boxer took defensive action after giving multiple calls to stand down.

    "This is the latest of many provocative and hostile actions by Iran against vessels operating in international waters," the president said. "The United States reserves the right to defend our personnel, our facilities and interests and calls upon all nations to condemn Iran's attempts to disrupt freedom of navigation and global commerce."

    The LMADIS is a maneuverable system installed on MRZR all-terrain vehicles. One of the MRZRs is a command vehicle and the other an electronic-warfare platform, according to a Marine Corps video that describes the system. It's typically used on the ground, but has recently been put to the test on several Navy ships.

    The system uses a radar and cameras to scan the sky to detect drones and distinguish between friendly and hostile systems. Once it locates a threat, it uses radio frequencies to jam the drone, C4ISR reported in May.

    Low-altitude defense officers and gunners with Marine Medium Tiltrotor Squadron 163 (VMM-163) (Reinforced), which is currently deployed aboard the Boxer with the 11th MEU, trained with the system before the unit deployed, Defense Department photos show.

    The 11th MEU is not the first Marine unit to use LMADIS aboard a Navy ship. Earlier this year, Marine Corps images showed the North Carolina-based 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit used it on the amphibious assault ship Kearsarge during a transit through the Suez Canal. Members of the 13th MEU also used it during a training exercise in Djibouti.

    https://www.military.com/daily-news...orps-weapon-just-destroyed-iranian-drone.html
     
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    I thought you bought down your own american drone?
     
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    Marines Took Out Iranian Drone for the Cost of a Tank of Gas


    Instead of a using an almost-million-dollar Navy missile, Marines splashed a hostile Iranian drone on Thursday for about the cost of a couple of gallons of gas.

    During a transit through the Strait of Hormuz into the Persian Gulf on Thursday, Marines – operating a new electronic warfare system on the deck of USS Boxer (LHD-4) – downed a hostile unmanned aerial vehicle 1,000 yards from the amphibious warship.

    The new Marine Air Defense Integrated System (MADIS) used is a combination of components that includes electronic jammers, radars and gun systems to take out UAVs. The version of the system aboard Boxer was mounted on an MRZR that was perched on the bow of the ship and was powered by a gasoline electrical generator, according to photos released from the service. The Marine Corps did not immediately respond to a request for additional information on the system.

    The encounter is the first known kill by a new generation of electronic warfare and directed energy weapons the U.S. has developed over the last decade to handle the daunting problem of how to counter voluminous, low-end threats without resorting wasting high-dollar missiles, naval analyst and retired Navy officer Thomas Callender told USNI News on Friday.

    In particular, both the Navy and Marines have been concerned about swarms of cheap but lethal unmanned vehicles that could overwhelm a ship or ground unit’s defenses.

    It’s a tricky problem. Defenses on U.S. warships are optimized for the high-end threats, and firing expensive missiles to intercept a drone that’s a fraction of that cost puts Americans at a cost disadvantage.

    For example, Boxer fields short-range RIM-7 Sea Sparrow missiles that cost about $170,000 each and the RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile that costs shy of a million dollars apiece. Either, or a combination of both, would have likely been used to down the Iranian drone on Thursday if the Marine’s MADIS wasn’t sitting on Boxer‘s deck, USNI News understands.

    The Navy has tested less expensive options at sea to shoot down drones, trying its 5-inch deck guns as well as the Phalanx Close-in Weapons Systems with limited success.

    “They found that the 5-inch gun took multiple shots to try and hit it because it’s not designed for something slow and small,” Callender said. “Even with the CIWS, it took a lot of shots to take that out.”

    Those types engagement still costs thousands of dollars in rounds, on a ship at sea with a limited supply of ammunition.

    With systems like MADIS, “now you’re, back on the right side of that costs exchange ratio,” Callender said, “instead of spending hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars on a missile or a higher-end weapon against something that’s very low-end, low-cost.”

    In 2014, the Navy deployed a 30-kilowatt laser aboard a ship in the Persian Gulf as an early test of a directed energy weapon at sea after it proved it could disable small boats and UAVs. Then-Office of Naval Research chief Rear Adm. Matthew Klunder highlighted the cost of firing the laser – about a dollar a shot.

    The Navy is moving to install its first 60-kilowatt Lockheed Martin-built High Energy Laser and Integrated Optical-dazzler with Surveillance (HELIOS) directed energy weapon on a destroyer in 2021. The Navy is also working on additional electronic warfare capabilities on its surface ships that could find non-kinetic ways to disable enemy missiles and UAVs. In January, Northrop Grumman won a contract to develop the Surface Electronic Warfare Improvement Program (SEWIP) Block III electronic attack capability for U.S. warships.

    In addition to the lower cost of operating the systems and an ammunition supply only limited by the energy a vehicle or ship can generate, Callender said there were other benefits to the new systems.

    Using systems like MADIS is “less escalatory than if you shot a missile,” he said.
    “And in some ways, depending on the scenario, you could have deniability. ‘Oh, it crashed. We don’t know why it crashed.’”

    https://news.usni.org/2019/07/19/marines-took-out-iranian-drone-for-the-cost-of-a-tank-of-gas
     
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    LOL, U.S desperation is at record high.

    They are still maneuvering on this fake shoot down news, while Iran has already published the drone footage flying right above that new junk uninterrupted!

    so Let's see the failure of American top notch tech again:


    LOL

    Failure of LMADIS.jpg
     
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    sadly to inform you seems your truck only works against these sort of threats
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    honestly I doubt it even works against this
     
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    Proof please! Enough with baseless lies
     
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    iran shoulda just said **** it and blown up that ship

    i'm getting impatient over here...
     
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    Let me get this straight, US shot down a drone completely intact. And then sent ZERO teams to retrieve ANY PIECE of it.

    This is the same US that parades Houthi equipment and Iranian arms in front of the national media to make propaganda claims about how Iran is destroying the Middle East?

    Yeah I doubt they shot down anything.
     
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    :disagree:
     
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    usa chickened out .
     
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    That toy is not prove for anything here
    stop baseless claims and show us some evidence.
     
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    Boss it probably doesn't work...

    Iranian video seems to be legit showing drone film from after the time it was supposed to be down
     
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    One possibility is that the drone shot down was nothing more than a quadcopter ment to take better visual footage.

    Recently Iran launched a drone to track an aircraft carrier but the film that was later shown was captured by a quadcopter flying much further below it.

    If a quadcopter was shot down it would be impossible to find in the PG and likely would sink to bottom quickly.
     
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    It was a fixed wing and Pentagon doesn't say they destroyed it. It says they took defensive measures. Whatever that means:

    The Pentagon confirmed the confrontation but did not acknowledge the unmanned aerial vehicle's (UAV's) destruction.

    "At approximately 1000 local time, the amphibious ship USS Boxer was in international waters conducting a planned inbound transit of the Strait of Hormuz," Pentagon spokesperson Jonathan Hoffman said in a statement. "A fixed-wing unmanned aerial system [UAS] approached Boxer and closed within a threatening range. The ship took defensive action against the UAS to ensure the safety of the ship and its crew."

    https://www.janes.com/article/89968...stroys-iranian-drone-threatening-navy-warship
     
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    And trump still insist the UAV got destroyed.
     
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