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NO..... are you kidding us? really....

I am saying again even Turkish Army modernized M-60TM Tanks are better than Greek Army Leopard-2HEL Tanks

send Greek Army pathetic Leopard-2HEL Tanks for urban warfare and see what will happen


what about Greek Army Leopard-2HEL Tanks ? so old technology

NO hard kill Active Protection System
NO Close Range Surveillance System
NO Telescopic Periscope System
NO Beyond Armor Vision System
NO Remote Weapon Platform


Turkish Army modernized M-60TM Tanks have superior technology

German MTU Engine and RENK 304S Transmission
İsraeli 120 mm Gun , RWR/IR warning systems from the Merkava IV Tank

-- Volkan-M new generation Fire Control System
-- Tank Command Control Combat Information System
-- New Explosive Reactive Armor ERA
-- The hybrid electric and hydraulic system
-- Tank Laser Warning System (TLUS)
-- Tank Driver Vision System (TDVS)
-- Fire Suppression System
-- Smoke Grenade Launchers
-- Air Conditioning System
-- Auxiliary Power Unit and Audible Warning System
-- 12,7mm SARP Stabilized Advanced Remote Weapon Platform
-- PULAT hard kill Active Protection System

Close Range Surveillance System (YAMGÖZ)
Telescopic Periscope System (TEPES)
Interior Primer Protection (SPALL LINER)
Beyond Armor Vision System ( BITES )

What a technology ...
 
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The old Joe (Biden) seems OK. But not the US senate..... They found the Erdogan's Turkey far too dangerous and unpredictable. They are right.

Turkiye should say go to hell the US senate and to buy Eurofighter from The UK

and bravo ERDOGAN who protect Turkiye and Turkish People against bandit USA-France and their terrorists/puppets PKK/YPG , FETO , Greece
 

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Turkish Army modernized M-60TM Tanks have superior technology
We all know your patriotism.

But what about armor? M60 may be destroyed by so many weapons.....

and bravo ERDOGAN who protect Turkiye and Turkish People against bandit USA-France and their terrorists/puppets PKK/YPG , FETO , Greece
The Turkey of Erdogan is not the real Turkey. Only another muslim state, so a foe for the rest of humanity.
 

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We all know your patriotism.

But what about armor? M60 may be destroyed by so many weapons.....

You ,Foinikas and Akritas have patriotism and anti-Turkiye feeling that prevents seeing the truth


Turkish Army modernized M-60TM is not basic M-60

New Explosive Reactive Armor ERA
PULAT hard kill Active Protection System

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We prefer Turkish M60TM Tank instead of Greek Leopard2HEL Tank for urban warfare
 

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Dangerous Turkey....

You ,Foinikas and Akritas have patriotism and anti-Turkiye feeling that prevents seeing the truth


Turkish Army modernized M-60TM is not basic M-60

New Explosive Reactive Armor ERA
PULAT hard kill Active Protection System

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We prefer Turkish M60TM Tank instead of Greek Leopard2HEL Tank for urban warfare
It remains a old gen MBT, not brillant at its time so no more potent now. It is more a rubbish solution to increase the number of MBT than an efficient solution.

France can do the same by adding ERA on AMX30 and saying it's better than a Leclerc.
 

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France can do the same by adding ERA on AMX30 and saying it's better than a Leclerc.

not only New Explosive Reactive Armor ERA

but also PULAT hard kill Active Protection System

-- German MTU Engine and RENK 304S Transmission
-- İsraeli 120 mm Gun , RWR/IR warning systems from the Merkava IV Tank

-- Volkan-M new generation Fire Control System
-- Tank Command Control Combat Information System
-- Tank Laser Warning System (TLUS)
-- Tank Driver Vision System (TDVS)
-- Fire Suppression System
-- Smoke Grenade Launchers
-- Air Conditioning System
-- Auxiliary Power Unit and Audible Warning System
-- 12,7mm SARP Stabilized Advanced Remote Weapon Platfor

Close Range Surveillance System (YAMGÖZ)
Telescopic Periscope System (TEPES)
Interior Primer Protection (SPALL LINER)
Beyond Armor Vision System ( BITES )


LECLERC is so old technology which has no capability for urban warfare
 
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Έλληνας πιλότος για Rafale: ”Εχουμε πια στα χέρια μας ένα game changer που μπορεί να εξουδετερώσει οποιαδήποτε απειλή”
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Greek pilot on Rafale: "We now have in our hands a game changer that can neutralise any threat"


Greece's Armed Forces are monitoring everything. That is why both ground and air assets are in a surveillance role and are expected to monitor every move of Turkish ships in the Aegean Sea. Of course, the new Rafale fighter jets have their own special role, which are expected to be the big nightmare of the Turkish air force! With each passing day the Greek fliers are learning more and more about the French super weapons and getting used to flying with them.

"Our goal is to take this tool and take it even further and once we get the orders to use it regularly we will do it 100%. With this supercarrier the Air Force has become even more powerful and can make a difference in the air compared to any other aircraft," an Air Force pilot tells Alpha who was at Squadron 332, code-named "Falcon", where every day they discover the Rafale's capabilities in the air.

"We now have in our hands a game changer that can neutralize any threat. What we call: game over threat! The Rafale pleasantly surprises us with its capabilities and on this French blast, the Greek Air Force is building the future of the next decade," says a gunner of 332 Squadron.

As for the Meteor missile carried by the Rafale, it is probably the best weapon system currently available: "The chances of an enemy fighter surviving within 60 km are zero. It is probably one of the best missiles and can make the difference compared to any other new generation weapon system. It has a different engine and a different operating philosophy than any other older missile, making it irresistible in a demanding battle."
 

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LECLERC is so old technology which has no capability for urban warfare
LOOOOL.
Your futur Altay MBT is built on Korean K2 technology which is a copy of Leclerc MBT.

not only New Explosive Reactive Armor ERA

but also PULAT hard kill Active Protection System
Those are so potent technology that russian MBT are suffering hundreds loss in Ukrainia.
 

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LOOOOL.
Your futur Altay MBT is built on Korean K2 technology which is a copy of Leclerc MBT.

K2 and ALTAY use German 120mm gun technology and nothing to do with old LECLERC

Both K2 and ALTAY are superior to old LECLERC
even modernized M-60TM is superior to LECLERC in urban warfare


ALTAY Tank mass production start in 2023
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Greek pilot on Rafale: "We now have in our hands a game changer that can neutralise any threat"


Game changer S400 Air Defense System


Turkiye bought 192 Air Defense Missiles to turn 24 Greek Rafales into crap of metal

Greek Rafales can not flight even over the Aegean

48N6E3 Missile
speed : mach 5,9
range : 250 km

40N6E Missile
speed : mach 3,5
range : 380 km

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how is K2 a copy of Leclerc. Idiot. Leclerc is good but K2 makes Leclerc look like a Lada compared to a Mercedes.

If Leclerc is stick figures, K2 is 3D animation. Just leagues beyond Leclerc.

The only similarity (which le french calls copy immediately) is that K2 also uses bustle autoloader. On engine, suspension, APS, armor, composites, and electronics, K2 is two generations ahead. In this similarity case then all airbus are copies of boeing and all dassault Mirage are copies of Convair F-106.
 

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The chances of an enemy fighter surviving within 60 km are zero. It is probably one of the best missiles and can make the difference compared to any other new generation weapon system. It has a different engine and a different operating philosophy than any other older missile, making it irresistible in a demanding battle."

100 km Turkish SIPER Block-1 air defense missile to block Greek Rafales
No fly zone over the Islands which are 2-10-30 km away from Turkiye
....... nowhere to hide and nowhere to run .......

GAME OVER for day dreamer Greeks-French


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K2 and ALTAY use German 120mm gun technology and nothing to do with old LECLERC
Once again, you write without knowing.

What means "old" ?

The 120mm gun of Leclerc uses the same shells than the german Leo2, but has a slightly better speed impulse (> 1850m/s).

Just have a look to K2 : same number oh wheels, 6, when the standart is 7. Same number of pax, 3, when standart is 4. Same weight class, 55 to 56T, when the standart is more 60 to 62T, same overall look, same autolader (a full copy of the frenc one).

You know absolutely nothing about the Leclerc armor. The UAE and SA fight in Yemen : a lot of Abrams lost. Just one driver killed in a Leclerc and the tank was not lost.

Both K2 and ALTAY are superior to old LECLERC
full conjecture. About Altay it is a product non in production, so impossible to say it is a good or bad product.

even modernized M-60TM is superior to LECLERC in urban warfare
Another conjecture.

ALTAY Tank mass production start in 2023
Always "next year"....

So next time write about it when the first full squad will be FOC. It will not be in 2023.

how is K2 a copy of Leclerc. Idiot. Leclerc is good but K2 makes Leclerc look like a Lada compared to a Mercedes.

If Leclerc is stick figures, K2 is 3D animation. Just leagues beyond Leclerc.

The only similarity (which le french calls copy immediately) is that K2 also uses bustle autoloader. On engine, suspension, APS, armor, composites, and electronics, K2 is two generations ahead. In this similarity case then all airbus are copies of boeing and all dassault Mirage are copies of Convair F-106.
Leclerc is the first 3rd gen MBT.
the 4th gen is not born.
So stop your bull shit and read my previous post about how the K2 is a copy of the french MBT.
 
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100 km Turkish SIPER Block-1 air defense missile to block Greek Rafales
No fly zone over the Islands which are 2-10-30 km away from Turkiye
....... nowhere to hide and nowhere to run .......

GAME OVER for day dreamer Greeks-French


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Why a SAM cover when all year long it is the Turkish fighters that want to enter the Greek airspace ?

Why such a SAM cover if your air force is so strong ? (your awacs are so useless? your pilots so unskilled? your F16 so old fashioned ?)

If the russian made SAM were so potent, why so many are destroyed in Ukraine?
 

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Another conjecture.

Old LECLERC is so trash in urban warfare ...

3rd generation LECLERC is from 1990s
The next genetat,on K2 and ALTAY from 2010s

LECLER has no capability even to fire smart Top-Attack Munition which is a fire-and-forget, top-attack anti-tank munition with an effective operating range up to 8 km

K2 and ALTAY can destroy LECLERC from 8 km away
also both K2 and ALTAY have superior sensors ( millimeter band radar, infrared and radiometer )


Old LECLERC Tank

NO hard kill Active Protection System
NO Close Range Surveillance System
NO Telescopic Periscope System
NO Beyond Armor Vision System
NO Remote Weapon Platform
NO Camera
NO Sensor fusion
 

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