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Not clearly superior but somewhat superior. Due to the limited distances, Turkey will enjoy EW and Situational Awareness advantages in most air engagements with Greece.

18 Rafales will not make TuAF lose sleep.

Let us not get into semantics.

Rafale + AESA + Meteor(best BVRAAM in the planet) will kill F-16 Block 52 + unknown first Turkish AESA radar + unknown first Turkish BVRAAM far more often than the other way round.

Turkish pilots will have real fear when Rafales are known to be in the area as they can be shot at without being able to respond. Meteor has the very best tech from the UK, France, Germany and Sweden incorporated into it.

The Meteor has a "no-escape zone" far greater than the AIM-120C7 and I doubt whether the Turkish AAM will be much better, if at all.

Look I want Turkey to quickly develop all the best tech but am being realistic here. France has just shown Turkey how influential it still is with it's cutting edge arms industry.
 
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Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis announced on Saturday that Greece will buy 18 new Rafale aircraft and four frigates to address the defense needs of the country.


The Greek premier, speaking in Thessaloniki, said that the defense of the country will also be boosted through the acquisition of Romeo SH-60 Seahawk helicopters, torpedoes, anti-tank and guided missiles and the modernization of the Hydra-class frigates.


He also announced the hiring of 15,000 new professional recruits and the revitalization of the Greek defense industry.


The Rafale is a French twin-engine, multirole fighter aircraft designed and built by Dassault Aviation.


Equipped with a wide range of weapons, the Rafale is intended to perform air supremacy, interdiction, aerial reconnaissance, ground support, in-depth strike, anti-ship strike and nuclear deterrence missions. It is referred to as an “omnirole” aircraft by Dassault.

by Hinduvta gang's logic, with these "game changer" rafale, Greece is a supa powa now
 

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Cheaper to build wind and solar energy facilities then buy weapons and fight for phantom NG/oil along an unspecified maritime boundary. France wants to export weapons, Germans want to export wind and solar plants. Brussels will side with Germany, IMO
 

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Intentions and buying something are two different thing, they have not the money as you can see:-).
 

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Wow, Greece now has a fighter that Turkey cannot counter.

Rafale + AESA radar + Meteor will give TAF a real headache now.

Their F-16s are no match for the Rafale.
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Greek's fighters will be shot down by Turkiye's S-400 as they take off.

Greek's Rafales will never face Turkish Fighters.
 

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Greek's fighters will be shot down by Turkiye's S-400 as they take off.

Greek's Rafales will never face Turkish Fighters.

Do you know S-400 has maybe a maximum effective rage of 150km against incoming fighter jets?

Rafales will be armed with Spectra to try to jam the S-400 and it's missiles.
ARMs can be launched outside effective engagement range to neutralise the S-400s radars.

Too many people have been taken in by Russian hype over the S-400.
 

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Common Greek poor people should ask Erdogan a Turkish invasion in order to liberate Greece from their corrupt dumb*ss ruling elite.

Turkey have a lower PIB per capita than Greece, but a lower unemployment rate too.

i.e: it's better be poor in Turkey than in Greece, the poors in Turkey have a more worthy life than the Greece poor people.

Greece poor people has nothing to defend, but their poverty. Twelve years eating shit from the EU and counting!
 

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Greeks are proud people. The grand daddy of science, democracy, western civilization, orthodox Christianity, not to mention the longest lasting empire Byzantine. That's a darn good resume!
 

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Let us not get into semantics.

Rafale + AESA + Meteor(best BVRAAM in the planet) will kill F-16 Block 52 + unknown first Turkish AESA radar + unknown first Turkish BVRAAM far more often than the other way round.

Turkish pilots will have real fear when Rafales are known to be in the area as they can be shot at without being able to respond. Meteor has the very best tech from the UK, France, Germany and Sweden incorporated into it.

The Meteor has a "no-escape zone" far greater than the AIM-120C7 and I doubt whether the Turkish AAM will be much better, if at all.

Look I want Turkey to quickly develop all the best tech but am being realistic here. France has just shown Turkey how influential it still is with it's cutting edge arms industry.
This will just incentivize Turkey to come up with ways and means to defeat the Rafale on a war footing. Increasing spending and acquisitions to quickly improve their EW equipment (their Havasoj program will almost certainly get a boost in funding and procurement in numbers), and more R&D into defeating the Meteor and Spectra with DRFM decoys, towed decoys, Loyal wingman aircraft that can fly ahead and if need be, become sacrificial targets to absorb enemy meteors while closing towards the merge where Turkey can use its indigenous BVR and High off bore sight WVR missiles and their superior training to take down these Rafales.

They can recoup their costs by selling to friendly nations like Pakistan, which is facing the same threat.
 
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