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jus_chillin

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The Americans and Europeans want to include Sweden and Finland in the EU gang. Turkey has veto power and is making full use of it. Pakistanis fold in front of the Americans. BLA and other terrorists are given refuge in Sweden and other European cities. Turkey won't accept PKK terrorists in European capitals including Sweden. We shouldn't confuse our weakness with others.

PKK fanboys also harp and support BLA. Kurdish nationalists think Baloch are their long lost kin.
 

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lol

Chinese J20 has also delta canards

most important thing is design , material , speacial paint , digital camouflage and internal weapons bay for stealth capabilities

so Turkish MIUS will be more stealth than Rafale , F15 , F16V , MIG-29M2 and SU-35 to match with them in BVR combat
Canards gives extra surface to radar same goes to j201

Sorry I mean I'm not denying this

Sorry I mean I'm not denying this
 

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lol what about pathetic French technology ?

Even French FREMM Frigates armed with only 16x SAMs .. because French SYLVER VLS has no quad pack capability for ASTER SAMs

Turkish Navy has more SAMs than French+Hellenic Navies combined




never forget that pathetic French Navy can not stop Turkish military fire power ( 1.000+ HARPOON , SOM , ATMACA , SLAM-ER , TRLG-230 , HARM Missiles )

150+ km KGK-LR glide bomb with IIR seeker is coming to hit even moving Warships

250 km Turkish ATMACA land based anti-ship Missiles for coastal defense mission

also soon 250km KUZGUN-TJ and 150km CAKIR cruise Missiles with IIR seeker for swarm attack on enemy Warships

even 10 AKINCI UCAVs will carry 60 KUZGUN-TJ Missiles for swarm attack on French Frigate or Destroyer and game over !

also 200km SIMSEK subsonic Kamikaze Drone
1.000 km KARGI anti-radiation Drone
150 km AKBABA anti-radiation Missile on the way

also in 2022 Turkiye will start testing its own RAMJET for supersonic Missiles

also Dozens of Turkish unmanned Vessels armed with anti-ship missiles and torpedos to attack on enemy Warships
Also you've been spamming the same bull countless times on the forum,to the point that you've lost credibility. People are tired of seeing the exact same words and statements and the same long lists of future Turkish superweapons,that in your mind are already the best in the world.

In the end,you act like a paid AKP member who is here to boast about Turkish supremacy and promote Erdoğan's policies.
 

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MIUS is Fighter Jet .. but unmanned

and our S400s will protect Turkish UCAVs against enemy Fighter Jets .....

Turkiye doesnt attack France
Turkiye just protect its legal rights and Turkish EEZ in the Eastern Mediterranean against bandit France and puppet Greece

and Turkiye has enough military power to kick enemies in the Eastern Mediterranean
But ucavs are for power projections

lol what about pathetic French technology ?

Even French FREMM Frigates armed with only 16x SAMs .. because French SYLVER VLS has no quad pack capability for ASTER SAMs

Turkish Navy has more SAMs than French+Hellenic Navies combined




never forget that pathetic French Navy can not stop Turkish military fire power ( 1.000+ HARPOON , SOM , ATMACA , SLAM-ER , TRLG-230 , HARM Missiles )

150+ km KGK-LR glide bomb with IIR seeker is coming to hit even moving Warships

250 km Turkish ATMACA land based anti-ship Missiles for coastal defense mission

also soon 250km KUZGUN-TJ and 150km CAKIR cruise Missiles with IIR seeker for swarm attack on enemy Warships

even 10 AKINCI UCAVs will carry 60 KUZGUN-TJ Missiles for swarm attack on French Frigate or Destroyer and game over !

also 200km SIMSEK subsonic Kamikaze Drone
1.000 km KARGI anti-radiation Drone
150 km AKBABA anti-radiation Missile on the way

also in 2022 Turkiye will start testing its own RAMJET for supersonic Missiles

also Dozens of Turkish unmanned Vessels armed with anti-ship missiles and torpedos to attack on enemy Warships
How about horizon class destroyers of French Navy
 

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Greece to acquire F35 jets immediately, Defence Minister Panagiotopoulos reveals​


US Pentagon officials took part in a meeting at the Greek Defence Ministry



Greece will be procuring the F35 fighter jets immediately, Defence Minister Nikos Panagiotopouos said on Tuesday.
Technical staff consisting of US Pentagon officials participating in the JSF PO (Joint Strike Fighter Program Office) program for the construction of F-35 fighter jets are already in Athens and, as announced by the Ministry of National Defence, met with Minister Nikos Panagiotopoulos.
The meeting was also attended by the US Ambassador to Athens, George James Tsounis.
During the meeting, the Minister of National Defence stressed that following the visit of Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis to the United States, the process of acquiring F-35 aircraft will begin immediately, which will meet the operational requirements of the Air Force.


I said on TV earlier that the government wants to buy 20 F-35.
 

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He is the kind of guy who will kill himself if he found 0.1% Greek in his DNA test lmao
He was bragging about "Turkish Navy since 1081" in another thread,because some Seljuk guy buit ships and raided the Aegean and was defeated a few years later.

He also claimed the history of the Huns,the Mongols and that Turks had 16 Empires...
 

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Against the background of tensions with neighboring Turkey, the Mitsotakis government, despite the sharp rise in prices and inflation in the country, secured US consent to the sale of the latest F-35 aircraft worth several billion euros.


The new “purchase of the century” follows the Prime Minister’s official visit to the United States and his announcement of the acquisition of a squadron of F-35s, confirmed today by National Defense Minister Nikos Panagiotopoulos, who said Parliament should immediately decide to start the process of acquiring the fighters. As the minister added, the General Staffs will take the necessary actions as part of the ongoing process of purchasing defense equipment.



Earlier, the official opposition linked the F-35 purchase to Mr. Mitsotakis’s inability to block the sale of F-16 fighters to Ankara. “It is inconceivable that Mr. Mitsotakis, due to his failure to prevent the sale of F-16s from the United States to Turkey, would go in compensation for the purchase of F-35s for $4 billion,” they commented.


The Greek side has yet to send the required Letter of Request (LOR) and the Prime Minister has not specified the number of aircraft Greece will buy (since the question ranges from 18 to 24 aircraft). However, former Deputy Defense Minister Alkiviadis Stephanis spoke (ERT) of the maximum number, while Air Force officials speak of 20 aircraft.


With the cost of each F-35 currently being around $80 million (at the bare minimum!), while each flight hour costs the budget $35,000 (an F-16 flight hour costs $15,000), it becomes immediately obvious that It’s about the “deal of the century”. 20 F-35s, according to Pentagon sources, together with pilot training in the United States, will amount to 3.5 billion euros, which will form a new stone in the defense budget of the Mitsotakis government, along with 5 billion euros from the French Belharra and about 3 billion euros from the French Rafale.

However, the first planes, if the agreement is “closed” soon, are not expected to arrive in Greece until 2027 at the earliest, with delivery dates in 2028 or even 2029 more likely. At the same time, the necessary work should begin on the Greek side to create the infrastructure that will house the F-35s, with the 115th Combat Aviation Regiment in Souda being the most likely location.


These aircraft, which are the only “functional” 5th generation, will be an important element that will change the balance in the Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean as they include important technologies (stealth, network warfare, Sensor Fusion) that make them superior weapons compared to other fighters, and have the ability to connect to the 4.5 generation Rafale and F-16 Viper, which Greece will start receiving in the coming months.


But such a change in the balance is unlikely to please neighboring Turkey, and how would Greece not find itself in a situation similar to Ukraine.


 

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In reality Turkey is far behind US/Russia/China in drone technology. Russia/America/China will have 6th gen unmanned drone fighters decades before Turkey. Since 2013 China has stealth drones in GJ11 which is years ahead of anything Turkey has now. Turkey can not even make a 4th gen fighter yet and talks like they are superpower. Kinda embarassing isn't it?
 

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