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if USA-France backed puppet Greece start a war
this time we will re-take our Islands in the Aegean from Greece and nobody can stop us
Your what? Your islands? :rofl:

@White and Green with M/S @Oldman1 @Raffie @Constantin84 as you can see,MMM-E lives in his own world,where Turkish weapons are always accurate and destroy enemy targets and the enemy doesn't have counter-measures,his weapons don't hit anything and basically everything Turkish is superior to anything others have. He will post long-lists of indigenous projects and advertise them,spamming entire threads with the same nonsense again and again and then will claim that other countries are "day-dreamers".
 

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Greece should completely demilitarize. Turkey is never going to attack Greece. Complete utter nonsense spending so much on military.
 

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We have 163 F-16 block52+ ... thanks to CCIP modernization for $3,9 billion
"And applied CCIP modernization program to 117 its block 40 & 50 F-16s, bringing 117 of the block 40/50 F-16s to a block 50+ configuration[55][56]"

Greece should completely demilitarize. Turkey is never going to attack Greece. Complete utter nonsense spending so much on military.
Yes,after Pakistan completely disarms,because India will never attack. After you,sir.
 

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"And applied CCIP modernization program to 117 its block 40 & 50 F-16s, bringing 117 of the block 40/50 F-16s to a block 50+ configuration[55][56]"

block50+ configuration has no Electronic Warfare suite
29 F-16 block50+ entered service between 2011 and 2012


but CCIP modernization Turkish F-16s equipped with Aselsan SPEWS-II EW Suite


Rafale has SPECTRA EW Suite
Greek F-16V will have AN/ALQ-254(V)1 EW Suite

and CCIP modernization Turkish F-16Cs equipped with Aselsan SPEWS-II EW Suite
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Also 163 CCIP modernization Turkish F-16s equipped with APG-68(V)9 radar as like Greek F-16 block52+
 
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block50+ configuration has no Electronic Warfare suite
29 F-16 block50+ entered service between 2011 and 2012


but CCIP modernization Turkish F-16s equipped with Aselsan SPEWS-II EW Suite


Rafale has SPECTRA EW Suite
Greek F-16V will have AN/ALQ-254(V)1 EW Suite

and CCIP modernization Turkish F-16C equipped with Aselsan SPEWS-II EW Suite
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So if Aselsan is so good and you're making superweapons like TFX and Mius...why do you want Eurofighters ASAP and to get back on the F-35 program? You guys used to mock the F-35 after you got kicked out and now you want back in? 😂
 

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So if Aselsan is so good and you're making superweapons like TFX and Mius...why do you want Eurofighters ASAP and to get back on the F-35 program? You guys used to mock the F-35 after you got kicked out and now you want back in? 😂


Turkiye joined F35 program as a global partner to replace F-4s

but USA blocked transfer of 100 F-35A to Turkiye , because of İsrael


Turkiye needs more Fighter Jets to replace F-4s

if no F-35 , then Turkiye ask 40 new F-16V from USA or 30 Eurofighters from the UK



MIUS will enter service in 2025 .... first flight in 2023
TFX will enter service in 2029 ... first flight in 2025

MIUS has limited payload and no air refueling capability

F-16V can carry more weapons and can operate with Air refuel Tankers everywhere in all over the world for strategic missions and attacks



We can use MIUS to beat Greek Rafales in BVR combat over the Aegean
We can use MIUS to attack on Hellenic Navy in the Eastern Mediterranean

also Turkiye plan to use MIUS on TCG ANADOLU light Aircraft Carrier
 

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Turkiye joined F35 program as a global partner to replace F-4s

but USA blocked transfer of 100 F-35A to Turkiye , because of İsrael
Ah now it's because of Israel? Not because of S-400s? :P

MIUS will enter service in 2025 .... first flight in 2023
TFX will enter service in 2029 ... first flight in 2025
So what are you afraid of so much,that you want Eurofighter and F-35s and Su-35s and everything,until 2029? Are you afraid someone will invade superpower Turkiye?

We can use MIUS to beat Greek Rafales in BVR combat
We can use MIUS to attack on Hellenic Navy
Not can. It's "could". When and if and maybe.
 

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Ah now it's because of Israel? Not because of S-400s? :P

S400 is a subterfuge

USA blocked F-35A to Turkiye in 2013 , because of İsrael and American policy in Syria over PKK/YPG Terror organization against Turkiye

Israel wants to be the only country in the region with F35s
even USA did not sell F-35s to the UAE and the UAE buys 80 Rafales from France
 

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Ah now it's because of Israel? Not because of S-400s? :P


So what are you afraid of so much,that you want Eurofighter and F-35s and Su-35s and everything,until 2029? Are you afraid someone will invade superpower Turkiye?


Not can. It's "could". When and if and maybe.

it can beat Greek Rafales in BVR combat ......... we needs

-- stealth platform with Internal weapon station ... ( MIUS is coming )
-- Turkiye has developed GOKDOGAN BVR air to air Missile ... also Ramjet powered GOKHAN long range air to air missile under development



why USA-France arming Greece and Egypt to use you as pawns against Turkiye ?
why France is trying to send Aircraft Carrier to the Eastern Mediterranean against Turkiye ?

what are you afraid of so much,that Turkiye wants F-16V or Eurofighter ?

a day ago MICO cried in Washington not to sell even F-16V to Turkiye

100 years ago Greece+Armenia+İtaly+France+UK all together attacked on unarmed Turkiye

now your countries have same plan
 
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why USA-France arming Greece and Egypt to use you as pawns against Turkiye ?
why France is trying to send Aircraft Carrier to the Eastern Mediterranean against Turkiye ?

what are you afraid of so much,that Turkiye wants F-16V or Eurofighter ?

a day ago MICO cried in Washington not to sell even F-16V to Turkiye
Using us as pawns? Because we buy weapons to protect from your idiotic behavior? Get a life.

I asked you a question. You claim Turkiye is a regional superpower and that you will be getting TFX,Mius and Kizelama by the end of the decade. Why does Erdogan want F-16Vs and F-35s like crazy,then? What's he afraid of? You said it yourself,you have super-amazing Hisar and Korkut and Siper and S-400 and super-amazing F-16s upgraded by Aselsan.

Why is Turkey so obsessed about getting F-16Vs and Eurofighters right now? Why is Turkey sending a request to join the F-35 program again?

It wasn't Mitsotakis who was crying in Washington,rather it is Erdogan who has been crying to Biden for a meeting. And now you're playing games with NATO. Do you think the Americans will appreciate that? lol

Israel wants to be the only country in the region with F35s
Well guess who else might be getting F-35s ;)
 

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Using us as pawns? Because we buy weapons to protect from your idiotic behavior? Get a life.

100 years ago smart British and French used Greeks as pawns against the Turks to take İraq and Syria

today same senario , smart Americans and French use Greeks , FETO , PKK/YPG , HAFTAR , etc as pawns against the Turks in İraq , Syria , Libya and in the Eastern Mediterranean


to protect from our idiotic behavior ?
Greeks again have big dreams to steal oil/gas reserves and MAVI VATAN from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean

nice dream ...keep dreaming dream is free

100 years ago , daydreamer Greeks came with dreams of capturing Anatolia from the Turks but ended up going back to Athens swimming
 

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Nahhhh

Turkiye is one of top countries in the World for Electronic Warfare technology
( USA,Russia,İsrael,Turkiye,The UK-France )


Turkish F-16s equipped with Aselsan SPEWS-II Electronic Warfare Suite
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also Turkish Air Force KORAL and REDET-II Radar Electronic Warfare Systems to jam and paralyze enemy Fighter Jets from 200km away
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and superior technology Turkish HAVASOJ is coming

The HAVA SOJ will be able to detect, identify , deceive and blind enemy communication systems and radars ( air defense, early warning, etc )

The HAVA SOJ system which has superior technological features than the KORAL Land Based Remote Electronic Support/Electronic Attack (KARA SOJ) system will combine many electronic warfare capabilities on an aircraft. There is no other system with this quality known in the world
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600 km detection range for Bombers , AWACS ,etc


Boeing E-7T AEWC and EIRS AESA Radar can detect Fighter Jets from 380 km away

problem will be for Greeks , Rafale or Embraer E-99 AEWC can not detect stealth MIUS from 380km away
No France are well ahead of you in EW field they helping you (NATO)you're not nowhere near the France in term of aviation fields, THEY HAVE LOT OF EXPERIENCE but you don't have experience
 

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I asked you a question. You claim Turkiye is a regional superpower and that you will be getting TFX,Mius and Kizelama by the end of the decade. Why does Erdogan want F-16Vs and F-35s like crazy,then? What's he afraid of? You said it yourself,you have super-amazing Hisar and Korkut and Siper and S-400 and super-amazing F-16s upgraded by Aselsan.

because all cowards all together attacks on Turks since 1699

All those weapons are not for only tiny Greece

but for France , İran , Syrian Regime , HAFTAR , Armenia even Russia in Libya , in Idlib , in Karabakh

even Egypt led by SISI buys weapons like crazy against Turkiye since 2013
 

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Your what? Your islands? :rofl:

@White and Green with M/S @Oldman1 @Raffie @Constantin84 as you can see,MMM-E lives in his own world,where Turkish weapons are always accurate and destroy enemy targets and the enemy doesn't have counter-measures,his weapons don't hit anything and basically everything Turkish is superior to anything others have. He will post long-lists of indigenous projects and advertise them,spamming entire threads with the same nonsense again and again and then will claim that other countries are "day-dreamers".
Ignore @MMM-E brother he acting little kid just like our eastern neighbour
 

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No France are well ahead of you in EW field they helping you (NATO)you're not nowhere near the France in term of aviation fields, THEY HAVE LOT OF EXPERIENCE but you don't have experience

France has no even Radar Electronic War Systems like Turkish KORAL and REDET-II

Turkiye has all kinds of EW Systems for land-air-naval platforms
even Turkish UAVs have EW Systems

and France doesnt help Turkiye .....

Turkiye itself developed TB-2 , ANKA-S , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI UCAVs
and Turkiye itself develops MIUS unmanned stealth Fighter Jet which can change balance of power in the skies

Well guess who else might be getting F-35s ;)

maybe in your dreams

Turkiye has S400s ........ USA can not sale F35 to Greece
 

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