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Verve

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Hypocrites of the highest degree.

IK burnt his political capital for 3.5yrs to just about stabilise the economy, did he ever demand Establishment to take the blame for inflation and devaluation when these lot along with their lafafa media houses were crying mehngai 24/7?
 

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How can they really let the chor regime fall so easily and give back control to pti……? Must be just a bluff
Hath mei aii power aur kursi kon chorta ha bhaiyon…..
 

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pathetic noonie gov ... doesnt have the balls to take decision on it's own accord.

PS how is the militay going to stamp the increase in fuel prices?.. really very stupid people.
 

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Establishment setting up technocrats govt means, giving save passage to all political parties for next election. Specially PMLN PPP and JUIF... now please take a decision after removing the PTI govt ... be brave PDM ...
 

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Maybe the goal of these traitors is to finish off the country totally…..and then go enjoy the loot in London/UK
Army mei insabki rishtaydariyan hain…..inko koi kuch nahi keh sakta….they’re american protected…..too powerful

IK wasting too much time, will lose steam and peoples will…..
All the more reason for people to come out on street against them. Imran should not let this opportunity go waste. He will not get another chance. These people will keep employing delay tactics.
 

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Hypocrites of the highest degree.

IK burnt his political capital for 3.5yrs to just about stabilise the economy, did he ever demand Establishment to take the blame for inflation and devaluation when these lot along with their lafafa media houses were crying mehngai 24/7?
Exactly my point. Why should establishment protect this govt of crooks when it didn't help PTI govt for 3,5 years when it was trying to clean up these crooks mess before 2018?
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Establishment setting up technocrats govt
Technocrat Govt rejected by PTI
 

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Establishment can try installing a technocrat government, but will they survive Imran Khan’s pressure.

The public will only rest when they see some heads resigning.

Bajwa needs to be a man and resign. He made a mistake, but for the greater good, he needs to take this step.
 

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I know people will curse me for saying this, but I will drink.the poison
India in 90s had to pawn its gold reserves to imf .
Pakistan is not at that stage , good for Pakistan.
People will have to bear the burden for some years, 3 to 5 years .
Privatisation was the norm in india , many government owned psu etc were made private.


I understand their game , they want bring economic structure of countries across the world in thier fold .lets say a watch company makes watches in Pakistan, but it is government owned. It has not innovated its design in last 20 years, suddenly markets open up and foreign brands come in , people have more choice, the old company dies a slow death because people will now purchase watches from foreign brands ( I am not saying this, it is the classic argument of world Bank and imf is this, which is to bring in more and more competition to offer more "choices " to a country's people, what they won't tell you is that now they have complete control over your markets, even for consumer goods , I just tried to explain this with help of example of a watch company )
I can't think of any way , you guys can bypass imf , no matter what you do, and its a terrible thing .because who doesn't like subsidies and corporations don't give a damn to a far away countries poor folks and financial autonomy


If Pakistan finds a way to bypass imf , it will be a massive victory for Pakistan for years to come

I would not wish Any country to fall in a imf rabbit hole , plus privatisation etc brings massive mental stress of the employees and their families
IMF isn't a rabbit hole
Going back to them is
just complete a program build your reserves and say never again

You are half way there
You have 6% growth with a deficit that is +give during normal times
Now you need to build reserves over next 3-5 yrs
Once that's done you will be protected
 

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In my opinion. Only method to blunt the final effect of imf rabbit hole is to have a robust private sector which is indigenous.
Again i will take example of watch company, in india it was the HMT, hindustan machine tools , which made watches, after 90s its sales dropped but this didn't allow cheap foreign brands from Japan or China to take hold , because we had Titan ( owned by Tata group ) watch brand , which absorbed many hmt employees and even today titan and its various subsidiaries such as sonata and fasttrack dominate the wrist watch market in India overall
If privatisation must take place , a domestic firm must acquire the government firm and not some far away foreign company.

You are right but this is not true for Pakistan because robust private sector is not acceptable to deep state. Let me explain why:
1. Pakistan is a country of 220 million people and seventh biggest agriculture land in the world. For such big agricultural land, there should be a fertilizer industry at least in each province if not in district. But in reality we have one. Other players tried to compete them but they couldn't. why? Because this Fertilizer company is owned by FFC Fauji Fertilizers company. :woot:
Same is the case with construction industry now, there are only NLC and FWO. Other players were much better than both but Khan's govt made a law and all contracts started to go NLC and FWO. Other players are either on their death bed or leaving the country.
Same is the case in dairy, food industry, heavy industry.

2. Robust private sector needs stability in the system which is not possible when you have powerful deep state.
 

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This just proves imported government cannot stablise the country, they know Pakistan is in very deep trouble, even if the stupid neutrals support them, what magic formula does the imported government have to repair the economy.
 

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You are right but this is not true for Pakistan because robust private sector is not acceptable to deep state. Let me explain why:
1. Pakistan is a country of 220 million people and seventh biggest agriculture land in the world. For such big agricultural land, there should be a fertilizer industry at least in each province if not in district. But in reality we have one. Other players tried to compete them but they couldn't. why? Because this Fertilizer company is owned by FFC Fauji Fertilizers company. :woot:
Same is the case with construction industry now, there are only NLC and FWO. Other players were much better than both but Khan's govt made a law and all contracts started to go NLC and FWO. Other players are either on their death bed or leaving the country.
Same is the case in dairy, food industry, heavy industry.

2. Robust private sector needs stability in the system which is not possible when you have powerful deep state.
Hence Pakistan problem is the establishment
Well not the establishment but corruption

This just proves imported government cannot stablise the country, they know Pakistan is in very deep trouble, even if the stupid neutrals support them, what magic formula does the imported government have to repair the economy.
Economy is in good shape that's why they came inwhat they didn't expect was shock they will receive from sudden flight of capital due to known corrupt practices

Pakistan deficit would have been positive had oil prices being normal.
All the needed was to roll over OLD loans but they couldn't everyone refused including th Chinese..who didn't roll over 3b$

Chinese said yes to temp govt last time in 2018 but said no to current govt!
 

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Exactly my point. Why should establishment protect this govt of crooks when it didn't help PTI govt for 3,5 years when it was trying to clean up these crooks mess before 2018?

Timing is all off for Establishment and PMLN know this. Threat to IK by E just at the start of Presser says it all - "we will trap you". Budget presentation and pass is a must for E, otherwise this imported government wouldn't have lasted this long.

Had they overthrown IK after the Budget, situation would have been very different and favourable for PDM and Establishment.
 

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Both establishment and PDM are responsible for destroying the value of rupee and ouster of an honest PM.

Now both are playing blame game to avoid taking responsibility for their mess created

In both cases, it is hurting the civilians, who just received a deadly gift of 40% inflation
 

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