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That’s a cheap excuse. The fact is, Habeck is of Green Party. They are the forerunner of shutting down nuclear power plants, shutting down coal power plant. Than the conservative of Merkel. She set everything on gas imports from Russia. Simply stupid. Now the war and energy shortages. Market reaction, if there is a supply problem, someone will profit, someone will lose.
Habeck can complain himself.
In the past, Germany relied on cheap Russian energy. Now Germany depends on the high price of American energy. How clever you are.

Germany's national strategy is to integrate the EU economy. Can Russia threaten Germany's national strategy? Or can the USA threaten Germany's national strategy?

The core of America's strategy is to maintain the dollar system. When China strictly controls the number of offshore CNYs and CNYs cannot be freely convertible, which currency is the biggest threat to the US dollar system?
 

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In the past, Germany relied on cheap Russian energy. Now Germany depends on the high price of American energy. How clever you are.

Germany's national strategy is to integrate the EU economy. Can Russia threaten Germany's national strategy? Or can the USA threaten Germany's national strategy?

The core of America's strategy is to maintain the dollar system. When China strictly controls the number of offshore CNYs and CNYs cannot be freely convertible, which currency is the biggest threat to the US dollar system?
That’s a myth.
Gas imports from Russia are not cheaper than imports from other countries. If Germany buys gas let’s say from Norway the price is the same.
The price of gas and oil is set on the exchanges. Buying gas from Russia was a political goodwill and now turns out a tragic mistake.
The US is just smarter in energy politics they are capitalists they not driven by green fanatics or dogma. You can badmouth the US but that’s fact.
 

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Yes, Habeck, you servile slave. The US has got you plugged in to the 'North American energy platform' ( Condoleesa Rice); do you think that the US companies are going to show you any mercy?

Yes, allow the US to dictate your strategy, agree with them when they say they will blow up your gas pipelines, now cry like a baby when you are at their mercy.

The end of Germany as an economic power; it was built on cheap Russian piped gas. See how much you export when using highly expensive, over prices American LNG.

The US ordered you to jump over a cliff, and you jumped.
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That’s a myth.
Gas imports from Russia are not cheaper than imports from other countries. If Germany buys gas let’s say from Norway the price is the same.
The price of gas and oil is set on the exchanges. Buying gas from Russia was a political goodwill and now turns out a tragic mistake.
The US is just smarter in energy politics they are capitalists they not driven by green fanatics or dogma. You can badmouth the US but that’s fact.
Relying on Russia is certainly a mistake. But it is also a mistake to rely on the USA.

Germany should learn from China. China does not rely on any single energy supplier.

Completely cutting off the energy trade with Russia and completely relying on the energy trade with Russia, both will lead Germany into crisis.
 

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Relying on Russia is certainly a mistake. But it is also a mistake to rely on the USA.

Germany should learn from China. China does not rely on any single energy supplier.

Completely cutting off the energy trade with Russia and completely relying on the energy trade with Russia, both will lead Germany into crisis.
China is big, you are people, resources, you are in a different game. If Germany won WW2 then well, then ok I would live here in a giant. Joke aside Yes no denial, EU is in deep trouble and things can only get worse. Russia as energy supplier is forever dead. Maybe I will migrate to China. Putin delivers cheap gas to you.
 

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China is big, you are people, resources, you are in a different game. If Germany won WW2 then well, then ok I would live here in a giant. Joke aside Yes no denial, EU is in deep trouble and things can only get worse. Russia as energy supplier is forever dead. Maybe I will migrate to China. Putin delivers cheap gas to you.
Germany is the leader of the EU, and the EU is also a giant. The EU is not weaker than China and the United States.




China has two low-cost energy suppliers.

One is Russia, which offers substantial discounts to China. The other is Saudi Arabia. China owns shares and preferential treatment of Saudi Aramco.

But even Russia(16%) and Saudi Arabia(17%), China does not allow their ratio to exceed 20%. This is to ensure energy security.

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Merkel did make mistakes.

In order to balance the control of the USA over the EU, she hopes to achieve balance by introducing the power of Russia. Then they can obtain the economic and political independence of the EU from the political balance.

But she chose the wrong docking-port. It is true that the trade and market between the EU and Russia can be rapidly developed through energy, but it also makes the EU lose energy security.

The war in Ukraine and this energy crisis actually started in 2014.

Different from the optimism of many countries, Chinese public opinion generally predicted the outbreak of the war in Ukraine. Of course, we did not expect it to happen so early.

For a country like China, we cannot tolerate hostile countries being too close to our core region. This is also the reason why we intervened in the Korean War and the Vietnam War.

Russia and China belong to the same level of countries. They must have psychology similar to ours. When the coup broke out in Ukraine in 2014, the war in Ukraine will inevitably break out in the future.

After the coup in Ukraine in 2014, Merkel did not foresee the outbreak of the war in Ukraine in time. And adjust the energy problem. This is also a big mistake.

In a word, today's crisis in Germany and the EU stems from the incomplete sovereignty and the lack of independence of foreign policy. The naivety and weakness of the German government are also important reasons.
 

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Germany is the leader of the EU, and the EU is also a giant. The EU is not weaker than China and the United States.




China has two low-cost energy suppliers.

One is Russia, which offers substantial discounts to China. The other is Saudi Arabia. China owns shares and preferential treatment of Saudi Aramco.

But even Russia(16%) and Saudi Arabia(17%), China does not allow their ratio to exceed 20%. This is to ensure energy security.

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Merkel did make mistakes.

In order to balance the control of the USA over the EU, she hopes to achieve balance by introducing the power of Russia. Then they can obtain the economic and political independence of the EU from the political balance.

But she chose the wrong docking-port. It is true that the trade and market between the EU and Russia can be rapidly developed through energy, but it also makes the EU lose energy security.

The war in Ukraine and this energy crisis actually started in 2014.

Different from the optimism of many countries, Chinese public opinion generally predicted the outbreak of the war in Ukraine. Of course, we did not expect it to happen so early.

For a country like China, we cannot tolerate hostile countries being too close to our core region. This is also the reason why we intervened in the Korean War and the Vietnam War.

Russia and China belong to the same level of countries. They must have psychology similar to ours. When the coup broke out in Ukraine in 2014, the war in Ukraine will inevitably break out in the future.

After the coup in Ukraine in 2014, Merkel did not foresee the outbreak of the war in Ukraine in time. And adjust the energy problem. This is also a big mistake.

In a word, today's crisis in Germany and the EU stems from the incomplete sovereignty and the lack of independence of foreign policy. The naivety and weakness of the German government are also important reasons.
Merkel will be remembered as dumbest woman in history. The worst thing is she feels no regret.
 

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Merkel will be remembered as dumbest woman in history. The worst thing is she feels no regret.
The German abandon USA and let Russia have their Ukraine. Case closed. Germany remain prosperous. Everybody can see Russia military is no threat with their poor showing in Ukraine. To promote Russian threat is just sit into American trap.
 

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The German abandon USA and let Russia have their Ukraine. Case closed. Germany remain prosperous. Everybody can see Russia military is no threat with their poor showing in Ukraine. To promote Russian threat is just sit into American trap.
Ok we will reestablish Indochina.
Win win.
 

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Europe, which participates in US sanctions against Russia, should buy US natural gas at market prices. China and India have not imposed sanctions on Russia, buying Russian energy at a 30% discount.(China buys it in RMB.)
 
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the cia planned the destruction of Europe if the blame China lie did not stick. That is the cia revenge for failure and China joined with China supporting zionists and the entire alt-wrong media, that supports Russia and China.

If Europe sided with Trump to destroy China, this war would not have happened, including the immense suffering in Ukraine (which is a continued Russian genocide that has been occurring on and off for many years) and businesses closing down in Europe, with European being poorer and poorer.

So for the Chinese to side with Chabad Putin is beyond evil. A cia USA war started using Chabad Putin and the Chinese support the cia war on Europe.

If cia Trump waged war on China, the Chinese would consider whites as blacks do - falsely calling the Europeans - "white devils". Well the cia war started and China is on the side of the cia to destroy Europe and the EU.


Never forget that China sold out Iraq and other nations for cia money at the UNSC.

The Chinese believe that Russia nuking Ukraine and beating up and genociding Ukrainians, "absolve" Chinese sins in the Islamic countries when China back the cia against in the UNSC.
 
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Merkel will be remembered as dumbest woman in history. The worst thing is she feels no regret.
Merkel is indeed right. If you think from the geopolitical perspective of Germany, Germany needs to lead and integrate the EU to obtain real economic and political security. The United States has too much influence on EU countries, so Merkel balances the influence of the United States by developing economic relations with Russia, which is definitely the right political operation. Helmut Kohl is the one who really made mistakes.
 

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Merkel is indeed right. If you think from the geopolitical perspective of Germany, Germany needs to lead and integrate the EU to obtain real economic and political security. The United States has too much influence on EU countries, so Merkel balances the influence of the United States by developing economic relations with Russia, which is definitely the right political operation. Helmut Kohl is the one who really made mistakes.
You don’t understand. US, UK, Germany, France, Japan and the West are ideological allies. They share much in common than oil and gas. Even if the price of oil and gas rise to 1,000 percent that won’t affect the alliance.

Merkel was educated in the East. She was member of communist pioneers. She speaks russian. She has much love for communist China and imperialist Russia. That’s why we are in deep shit now. If she had pursued a more balanced relationship between East and West we would be better off today.
 

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