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Future of SD-10 in PAF?

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  1. Bilal Khan 777

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    Pakistan Air Force opted for a compromise solution, with the inability to get European weapons, for SD-10 air to air missile. The weapon is now in service, with many hundred on order. However, what is the future of this weapon? Considering the evolving threat of BVRAACM in the theatre, it is likely that PAF will look for a life beyond SD-10.

    Enters Russian Federation, which warmup gestures to Pakistan, as India lap dances in American corn fields. Russia has a robust arsenal of developed and developing air to air weapons. It is likely that Pakistan will look towards Russia to arm the next generation of JF17 aircraft, and making the aircraft relevant to Russian block for purchase (having a Russian power plant does help).

    What we may expect is a solid interest of PAF in RVV series weapons, such as the Archer and Adder. This may make the sub-continent air battle very interesting, and perhaps the only airfare that will operate US and Russian weaponry side by side.

    It is quite possible that Pakistan may opt for Su-35 aircraft, just to access the weapons for JF17 deployment.
    However, there will be counter actions to try to buy Rafale or EFT, to access european weapons. May the tallest glass on the table win.

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    The question applies to most of the other BVRAA missiles on the market, So my guess is that BVRAA missiles will evolve too..
     
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    What about PL-15 ? It is a meteor class BVR. PAF may buy Russian BVR in limited number but the long term future is with PL-15 and PL-10.

    There is no SD-10B. China shelved the program and Merged SD-10B,C,D into PL-15
     
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    Archer R-77 missile is inferior. That is why Chinese goes for SD-10 or PL-12 missile. We are disappointed with performance of R-77 BVRAAM in our Su-30MKK fleet. Trying to go for Russian option is like downgrading itself.
     
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    Can we arm our JF-17 with AIM-120 AMRAAM which is far superior to Russian and Chinese BVRs.
     
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    Inducting SU 35 Will resolve all issues
     
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    No we can not. For that we need to unlock the proprietary software of AIM-120 so to integrate it with our radar.
     
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    If we buy large number of missiles may US gives approval for that but again may be JF-17 current radar is not that powerful to support AIM-120.
     
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    In order to gain approval for this kind of thing, Pakistan has to sign several defence pacts like CISMOA. Large quantity will not create any influence for Pakistan dictating its terms.
     
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    But Indian Super Sukhoi, Mig-29Ks & PAK FA will use next gen BVR & WVR missiles, are those not good in performance?
     
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    I don't think you are independent when you make this claim.
     
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    If we equip JF-17 with latest radar of F-16 block 60 or at least 52+ then there is no need to sign such agreements.
     
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    AIM120 is an active seeker, so its a handoff from the radar. It can also be a handoff from the data link. The power of the air intercept radar has no significance on the weapon carried.

    And how realistic is availability of these systems?
     
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    Then we have to move this kind of JF-17 away from mainstream bases and onto Shahbaz where chinese cant come and touch JF-17 wherever they like.
     
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    US already supplied AIM-120 to Pakistan some news quoted around 500 and we never approach US for any equipment for JF-17 since US equipment are quite prone to sanctions and may PAF don't want that project like JF-17 hit by any sanctions.
     
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