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hussain0216

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When they said end of this year, everyone thought they are talking about december but the MOD was talking about end of fiscal year that is February and that too in Aero India show. The productions lines are getting readied up as Covid created a lot of problems.
Your military hates Tejas,

The news is that they are repeatedly dragging their feet, coming up with excuses and late demands for changes all to push back and try to end placing an order

They are unhappy with everything about Tejas and don't want it inducted for political purposes and would rather buy more Rapaels
 
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Your military hates Tejas,

The news is that they are repeatedly dragging their feet, coming up with excuses and late demands for changes all to push back and try to end placing an order

They are unhappy with everything about Tejas and don't want it inducted for political purposes and would rather buy more Rapaels
No the deal was for Aero India as most of the Airforce related deals are signed during the events but the government said end of this year so many had speculated they mean December. Plus the Pandemic already has delayed some Tejas’s components related programs also.
 

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No the deal was for Aero India as most of the Airforce related deals are signed during the events but the government said end of this year so many had speculated they mean December. Plus the Pandemic already has delayed some Tejas’s components related programs also.
I am telling you any Tejas order will occur because the government insist upon it for its own propaganda purposes

The military hates the Tejas, sees its flaws and knows it will simply be a dead weight that will cost them money and effort for no reason (future Tejas MK2 not included as that plane is not here yet)

The order may indeed be placed, but only because it's being stuffed down the militaries throat
 
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I am telling you any Tejas order will occur because the government insist upon it for its own propaganda purposes

The military hates the Tejas, sees its flaws and knows it will simply be a dead weight that will cost them money and effort for no reason (future Tejas MK2 not included as that plane is not here yet)

The order may indeed be placed, but only because it's being stuffed down the militaries throat
No its not the case, Airforce desperately wants it but the HAL Production facility produces the aircraft in stupid numbers. What does any other aircraft in its category have which Tejas doesn’t have?
 
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flopped Dhruv helicopters
Troll logic, ItS mAdE bY iNdiA, LeTs sPaM iT iS bAd, It is fLoP, hAhAhA.

1. Turkey
2. Israel
3. Maldives
4. Mauritius
5. Peru
6. Nepal
7. India (Army, Navy, Airforce, Coast Guard)

More than 300+ To date made and is used by above countries.

Just because it is Indian then you will obviously downplay it. What have you made by yourself from scratch?
 

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JF-17 B3 may not have any comparison to Rafale. But one thing is definitely there to negate every edge rafale carries against PAF. JF17 does not need to be identical to rafale to beat it but to have something unique and out of the box.
This uniqueness is better integrations of all sensors networked together at the disposal of pilot to hit first and long before rafale can foil the attack. JF-17B3 is designed to give whatever PAF asked for to make rafale a sitting duck or keep it at bay far away from Pakistan.
India will know the true colors of it only after losing like 27th Feb.Meanwhile, what Indians can do ? Only the guess work but never know what the dragon they are confronting.
 

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According to international defense observers, Pakistan’s defense production from PK-15 assault rifles to Al-Khalid tanks and JF-17 Thunder is rapidly moving towards its self - sufficiency. In a short span of 12 years, the successful journey of JF-17 Thunder Block 3 from the launch of China’s joint warplane manufacturing program to its completion in Pakistan is a surprise to the world and awe to the enemies.

The JF-17 Thunder is talking parrots in combat aerial demonstrations around the world. Demand for Pakistan Thunder aircraft is increasing in developing countries like Malaysia, Burma and Nigeria. While the failed result of India’s 30 years of failed planning, the Tejas aircraft has become a rejected and flop product in the world market.

Today, Pakistan’s Armed Forces manufactures German-born G3 assault rifles and PK-15 assault rifles designed by Pakistani engineers, from automatic class light machine guns and heavy machine guns, manufactured in Pakistan’s Wah Ordnance Factory and armored in the international market. Exporting for use of forces.

India’s own journalists Rahul Bedi and Ghazala Wahab write that India made an Insas rifle after 20 years of operation but it totally flopped. The Indian Army rejected it with several complaints. The rifle was purchased by Nepal and returned with the Not Wanted medal. Then, nine years later, in 2019, Narendra Modi inaugurated a new Assault Rifle Factory in Amethi, Uttar Pradesh with a Russian partnership. But the factory has been shut down because the agreement with Russia has not been completed yet.

In 2009, the South American country of Ecuador purchased eight Indian-made Dhruv helicopters. But unluckily, four of those dysfunctional helicopters manufactured by the self crash master India crashed. For the remaining four contract was canceled and sent back to India.

Pakistan is building not only JF-17 Thunder multi-role fighter jets but also successful fighter training aircraft such as Super Mashaq and Karakoram 8 and selling them to Turkey, Egypt, Malaysia, Burma, Zimbabwe, Nigeria and other developing countries. Thanks to the profits made, the developing sector of Pakistani aircraft manufacturing is now entering the fifth generation stealth technology era with the new aircraft manufacturing program ” Project Azm “.

The world is amazed by the successful production of unmanned drone drones like Barak, Selex’s Falco, GIDS Shahpar and Jasoos drones made in Nescom Pakistan

Pakistan has turned the tide of the Indian Armed Forces’ long-held supremacy in desert and swampy sectors like Rajasthan by building state-of-the-art main battle tanks such as Al Khalid and Al Zarrar to suit its needs. Now not only the main battle tank but also the successful production of modern armored vehicles like Talha, Skab and Al Qaswa is going on in Pakistan. The nation is proud that we are now manufacturing anti-tank guided rocket launcher systems like Armor, Lightweight Anti-aircraft and Air to Ground Weapons like Barq and Anza in Pakistan itself. On the other side of the border, the Indian-built Arjun Tank itself faces strong criticism from Indian defense observers and overweight and other technical complaints from the military.

After the purchase one of the world’s most expensive Rafale jet from France, the Indian media and defense agencies act as if India has conquered the whole of Ladakh by defeating China.

It is a different matter that the Narendra Modi government is facing serious allegations of commission corruption in connection with the purchase of a 4.5 Generation Rafale aircraft, almost five times more expensive than the US F-16E and ten times more expensive than the JF-17 Thunder . The fact is that the Raphael planes will still need a year to adjust to the Indian Air Force system. And it is noteworthy that India will forever need France for the maintenance, overhauling, repair or upgrading of the Rafale aircraft.

The real difference between the Pakistani and Indian air forces is not the aircraft but the pilot. One difference between Made in owner of France Rafale and proud Made in Pakistan JF-17 is that they give an award to Abhinandan who lost the plane and praised the cup of tea from shooters. And we give medals of bravery to those Wing Commander Hassan Siddiqui and Wing Commander Noman Ali Khan who shot down the enemy plane.

BY : FAROOQ RASHID BUTT

Amazing analysis !! Lots lots and lots of respect for you sir. You have spoken the Ultimate Truth !! May Allah bless you and bless Pakistan with more sons like you. Ameen !!
Yes you will always say this out of frustration, but the fact of the matter is Tejas is better than JF-17. Just because took time and lesser produced compared to JF-17 doesn’t make it failed.

70% of Tejas is Indian
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😂😂 just stop right there ok. Don’t embarrass yourself buddy.
Amazing analysis !! Lots lots and lots of respect for you sir. You have spoken the Ultimate Truth !! May Allah bless you and bless Pakistan with more sons like you. Ameen !!

😂😂 just stop right there ok. Don’t embarrass yourself buddy.
Who’s buying the tejas from you guys ? Lmao failed project and whomever is in charge is just milking the cow
 

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JF-17B3 is designed to give whatever PAF asked for to make rafale a sitting duck or keep it at bay far away from Pakistan.
I wish you a good luck !
The two planes are not oxing in the same league. One is a light and mainly a point defense fighter and the other a medium with long range fighter.
Rafale will evolve also. F4 is in the pipe and F5 already in R&D phase. Rafale may have a tile, 270° coverage GaN radar when JF17 will only have a first gen AESA 120° radar.

No, the Pak answer request another beast.
JF-17 Thunder is rapidly moving towards its self - sufficiency.
Engine will always be a problem. And so probably radar.
You will have to be dependant on China for this.
Turkey has the same problem : no engine for its TFX (F110 for prototyp, but what alse for serial product?)
 

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