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Bhai 2 3 cases nhe hn. Ye ab bht common ho chuka ha. Mere apne dost jnho ne hifz kya ha wo btatay thay k jo bachay Madrasshay mn hi rehte hn unke sath Qari or Senior student kya krte thay.
Ankhain band kr lene se ye msla haal nhe ho Jayega. Hmaim iska solution dhonda chaiye. Agrr ek b massom bachay k sath ye ho rha ha to ghalat ha. Or isse rokna chaiye. Or jahan rhi baat madrasson mn parhne ki to mjhe nhe lgta 21st century mn inki ab zaroorat ha.
Better yahi ha k Quran bacho ko school mn hi parhaya jaye or uske k liye koi kabil teacher rakhay jayen na k wo jahil jnho ne bass Quran ka ratta mara hwa ha or na uspe amal krte hn or na hi unhe kch or ata. Meri university mn b ek islamiat ka course tha or jis teacher ne parhaya unme or Masjid walay qari sahb mn zameen asman ka farak tha sirf es liye k university ne ek Masters degree holder ko hire kiye tha jsse pata tha ko wo kya parha rha ha.
PTI government shayad Quran teaching ab mandatory kr rhi ha or hopefully ye saray school mn implement hoga takay madrassah janay ki zaroorat hi na rhe.
Madrasy aisy behtareen madrasy Pakistan me Hy. Ab apko Kia pta unka... Chunky har mohallay ki masjid me logo ne madrasa kol raka Hy is waja se madrasy badnaam ho rahy. Warna to Jo bary madrasy Hy unka system aap dekn gy aap Heran ho jayn gy. ..
 

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Some are just muslim by name.
I've seen plenty in MY
Yes, I saw plenty during my 7yrs stay in MY too. Worst were the elite Malays studying in International schools. KL was bad as it was but what I found quite shocking was how quickly the villagers who moved to city turned to immorality. But once in 3 weeks Jummah prayers they wouldn't miss and then it was drinking etc in clubs on Friday night! Not been to MY since 97 so things must have moved on a fair bit.
 

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Madrasy aisy behtareen madrasy Pakistan me Hy. Ab apko Kia pta unka... Chunky har mohallay ki masjid me logo ne madrasa kol raka Hy is waja se madrasy badnaam ho rahy. Warna to Jo bary madrasy Hy unka system aap dekn gy aap Heran ho jayn gy. ..
TO bhai achay walo ko rehne do jo gali mn unko band kr do.
Jo is type k hn wo thek hn. Naki or b Iqra or Darul-Arqam type school hn jo quality education dete hn
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Yes, I saw plenty during my 7yrs stay in MY too. Worst were the elite Malays studying in International schools. KL was bad as it was but what I found quite shocking was how quickly the villagers who moved to city turned to immorality. But once in 3 weeks Jummah prayers they wouldn't miss and then it was drinking etc in clubs on Friday night! Not been to MY since 97 so things must have moved on a fair bit.
It's progressed a little at snail's pace since the 90s due to elites being the worse lots who also indulges in unchecked corruption, they get away with everything.

They'll have to explain themselves when the time comes.
 

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Firstly, mental health issues exist in every strata of society - elite or poor, city or village, liberal or conservative. There are hundreds of cases of people killing their wives, their own parents, etc. In fact, usually they kill the ones closest to them. So I feel sorry for this poor lady, hoping to build a life with a damaged person.

Secondly, to say she would not have died if she followed Islam is just idiotic. These 2 were in a normal relationship, accepted by their parents - they could have been married in these conditions. And he still would have killed her.

This guy commits murder and the mullah brigade blame liberals. But when a mullah kills dozens in a terrorist attack, he is a mental patient / not a proper Muslim.

Pakistan's biggest problem is that the majority population has no solutions to any of their issues except parroting "proper islam".
 

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three perspectives,

- one is how morally, socially corrupt the culture has become & what kind of androids are being trolled out from a corrupt social and moral order. Sign of a sinking order.

- two is the disappearence of family values, respect for parents and elders, intermarriages between families, disappearnce of large and healthy families - instead taken over by the decayed and putrefield modern, western uncontrolled feminism and liberty.

- third is the chinese proverb - fish rots from the head. One was the sibling of an ambassador from our 'foreignservice babus' and other is a sibling of a CEO of a leading constuction company. This is the sorry and pathetic state of this rotten head.


Good exposure of the stinking and failing state of our society and culture exsistent within top echolons of 'central superior services ' which are neither central, nor superior and not even worthy of being called a service. R I P if you can find any.
And a fourth perspective:

None of the first three perspectives are enough to induce any meaningful change. Hence, the society remains comfortable with its conditions, and therefore no outsiders should be worried in this regard. All the internal hand-wringing we see is a mere dressing to appease ourselves while not changing anything.
 

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Incel. You 100% have a problem with extremist incels for hundreds of years. Thank you for your amazing contribution to humanity. I blame arabic and hindu dark triad influence which has made this psychology more complex and deeper rooted in Pakistani culture. Its another mess. Some would say you guys are in hell...
 

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Incel. You 100% have a problem with extremist incels for hundreds of years. Thank you for your amazing contribution to humanity. I blame arabic and hindu dark triad influence which has made this psychology more complex and deeper rooted in Pakistani culture. Its another mess. Some would say you guys are in hell...
Can you further elaborate on your statement ? Seems an interesting point of view.
 

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Firstly, mental health issues exist in every strata of society - elite or poor, city or village, liberal or conservative. There are hundreds of cases of people killing their wives, their own parents, etc. In fact, usually they kill the ones closest to them. So I feel sorry for this poor lady, hoping to build a life with a damaged person.

Secondly, to say she would not have died if she followed Islam is just idiotic. These 2 were in a normal relationship, accepted by their parents - they could have been married in these conditions. And he still would have killed her.

This guy commits murder and the mullah brigade blame liberals. But when a mullah kills dozens in a terrorist attack, he is a mental patient / not a proper Muslim.

Pakistan's biggest problem is that the majority population has no solutions to any of their issues except parroting "proper islam".
Pakistan's biggest problem is letting the mullahs and liberals and general public at large off the leash (of law) and letting them become feral!
 

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I would say chop the head off this animal right infront of the crime scene.

But, there is another element of this sad episode which is very uncomfortable. Why unmarried man and a woman were living together and their families knew about this all along? Has Pakistani society degraded to this level? This is not the Pakistan I knew.
 

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It would have been saved if she wasn't having a haram relationship with that man. Why are we ignoring that?
So would've been the guy who got run over had he not left his house. We need to be careful of appropriating blame based on our disagreement with someone else's choices. Having a haram relationship does not warrant or elicit being murdered and then beheaded. If A' then B' =/ If A then B.

In a perfect Islamic society, they would've been married and she would still be dead.

Anyway this is all BS, a young woman was brutally murdered and we are all sitting in judgement projecting our values on her.
Very well said.

The difference is that in other countries, the establishment promotes good leadership and good conduct while in Pakistan they are opposite. I met a tribal smuggler who told me a story of how ISI approached him, the rest i wont say here where indians are reading it. My point is its easy to blame the people, since ppl are corrupt, the leaders and whole system is corrupt, this maybe true upto some extent but not the whole picture. The establishment supposed to be the cream and the best of us and act on behalf of the state.
My friend, that could not be farther from the truth. No "establishment" has ever been that way. If they were, there would be no "establishment". Your statements are a willfully naive understanding of reality fabricated and self-administered by our society to placate the debilitating cognitive dissonance born from being as rotten as we are.

If they support corrupt scum then they should not be holly cows and brought to justice. This cannot continue and it leads to anarchy and uprisings.
A fair bit more that the people can do before resorting to anarchy and uprisings, if they have the sense, shame, and character.

Let's continue this discussion in a more appropriate thread?
 
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Most of these criminals who claim mental insanity are in fact very intelligent people more intelligent than 99% of people on this forum :D
 

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