So declared the armchair General sitting in Norway to the keyboard General sitting in the Netherlands.
if Pakistan has people like you there is no need for enemy.Most of us don't live in DHA despite being associated with Khaki. So please spare me this us vs. establishment stratification.
All of your other points are generalizations of the highest order so the less said the better. Case in point, point #4. Had that been the case then the last 8 governments, including ZAB's, would not have used force to put down the secessionist tendencies abetted by foreign entities. The establishment cares about the integrity of the country as is the case with establishments across the world. Why not look at IoK and figure out the role of the IA there to get a feel for what I am talking about?
Perhaps the reality is that you folks needed a platform to go after the army and now you have it. Ideas wise, you are just as bankrupt as you claim the establishment to be. You and your PTI government had nothing better to offer Balochistan or the country so why stick it to the military only?
So it was Awami League's fault that Pakistan Army did military action in East Pakistan? Are you insane? Awami League won the election in 1970 with huge majority. Military establishment had no right to take military action against its own people over there. East Pakistan broke up not because of Awami League winning elections in 1970, it broke up because military establishment mafia started military operation against those that had recently won the democratic election!In the past it was this lack of reconciliation that led to military action in EP, the same inflexibility, burn it all confrontation is now being used to drive Pakistan to the precipice yet again and this time its IK/PTI leading the charge.
TOBA TEK SINGH: Three cases, one at Gojra and two at Jhang, have been registered against TV anchor and vlogger Imran Riaz Khan on the complaints of three different citizens on the charge of speaking against state institutions.
The complaints said the anchor’s act was a major crime and violation of the Constitution as it had hurt sentiments of Pakistani people.
The FIRs, containing identical text, were registered on Thursday by Jhang’s Kotwali police on the complaint of Suhail Iqbal of Iqbal Nagar locality of Jhang, Jhang’s Saddar police on the complaint of Khalid Mahmood Malik of Soofi Mor, and Gojra Saddar police on the complaint of Mahboob Ali Khan of Chak 363-JB.
The cases have been registered under sections 505-1 (C), 505-2,501 and 109 of PPC and sections 4, 5, 11, 16, 20 and 22 of the Prevention of Electronic Crime Act, 2016.
MUZAFFARGARH: Another case was registered against Imran Riaz by Chowk Sarwar Shaheed police.
Complainant Advocate Riazul Haq, the brother of Maj Zakaul Haq Shaheed, lodged the case under sections 109, 501-C1, 503 and 505 of PPC against Riaz for speaking against the army.
The case was registered under the provisions of the Anti-Electronic Crime Act and other provisions. The complaint said Imran Riaz allegations had dented the image of the army.
Published in Dawn, July 1st, 2022
Complaints say the anchor's statements against state institutions had hurt Pakistanis' sentiments.www.dawn.com
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I don't need to counter the claims. Entire threads and pages have been spent countering what you repeat. Why bother any more?if Pakistan has people like you there is no need for enemy.
You didnot counter any of my claims, keep licking the boots. World is going moving forward at light speed and our beloved establishment is telling us the difference between "Interference" and "Conspiracy".
I say again my loyalty is to Pakistan and Pakistan alone. I donot care about IK or any other political leader for that matter.
I have to ask one question our COAS always go abroad and mostly to western countries. The people who know every state secrets, what guarantee do we have that they cannot be blackmailed into divulging our secrets mostly regarding nuclear assets.
So personal insults are the best you can conjure up against me?Lol so you turned out to be a military Patwari aka boot licker. Unbelievable!
So it was Awami League's fault that Pakistan Army did military action in East Pakistan? Are you insane? Awami League won the election in 1970 with huge majority. Military establishment had no right to take military action against its own people over there. East Pakistan broke up not because of Awami League winning elections in 1970, it broke up because military establishment mafia started military operation against those that had recently won the democratic election!
How the hell are you comparing that situation with PTI today, boot licker?
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Who said Bajwa sold nuclear secrets? When PTI was in govt, opposition, journalists claimed neutrals sent them threatening phone calls. Now same stuff has been happening after Bajwa's spokesperson DG ISPR tall claims of neutrality. So we have to ask the right questions. If Bajwa truly is neutral as his spokesperson claims to be, why the threatening phone calls haven't stopped already? Why the journalists are still attacked for having an anti establishment stance? What has changed that Bajwa's spokesperson keep saying we are now neutral?The point about the CoAS is yet again, more PTI-fed conspiracy theories - as if the entire Army staff and the CoAS have turned traitors overnight after spending 40 years in service of this country. Give me a god-damned break please! We literally ate "grass" to protect our nuclear program through thick and then and just because Imran Khan, like an imbecile, mouths off this conspiracy theory you start believing it? You recall the Lt Gen and Brig. sent to the brig and gallows in Gen Bajwa's tenure? What was that for? It was because the Brig in question divulged some national security information to the Americans. It the CoAS, yes Gen Bajwa that approved his death sentence. So claims of a sellout by the Army on the nuclear program are BS and IK and party are responsible for pushing this bakvaas narrative forward.
Exactly. Had military establishment played a true neutral role (not the one like Bajwa's spokesperson), East Pakistan would not have become Bangladesh. The fact Yahya ordered military operation in East Pakistan, proved to Bengalis that military establishment was no longer neutral but openly siding with West Pakistan's politicians. Hence the break up of East Pakistan became inevitable.So at the end of the day, had the politicians in West played by the rules and let Yahya give power (which Yahya was fully willing to) to MuR, this mess could have been avoided. The same situation applies today, the military in the middle trying to get the two sides to talk.
Noted. Sorry for my previous comments.I make sure my posts are not personal and don't exercise my admin privileges against other members but you are on thin ice with direct name-calling and insults. Take note!
Part of Pakistan was lost because it was the same politician bastards who would not compromise. Remember "Idher hum, udher tum" polarization of the past?