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Featured Firing on LOC: Civilians Suffering

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  1. WaLeEdK2

    WaLeEdK2 SENIOR MEMBER

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    The type of stress and anxiety that civilians have been dealing with for over 2 months:(
     
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    indian forces has gaudged the situation and evacuated the nearby areas...why pakistan keeping the civilians at risk.......as the two sides are not talking to each other and are more focus on taking revenges of privious day damages.....situation not going to be normal soon....
     
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    Why are these people still there?
     
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    While on the Indian side of the LOC settlements are rare, every village and town in northern AJK is right on the LOC. The valley is too narrow and there really is nowhere for these people to go. For example, this particular town in the video, Keran, has the river Neelum on one side and mountainous cliffs on the other. You can easily hit a cricket ball from the base of the cliffs over the river and into IOK. The fact that Indian forces deliberately target civilian settlements doesn't help either. Due to all of this, Pakistan has built under ground community bunkers in every settlement where the residents are told to evacuate and stay until the firing stops.
     
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    What many don't understand the dynamics of the area and the war of 1947-48 is that it cut through cities, districts, towns and roads. The line of control cuts through all terrains and there are many areas on both aides of the border where people, inhabitants of the land, had natural barriers on one side like mountains and rivers and the natural out way path on the other which got captured and cut due to the LOC.

    As @krash explains it. So whenever firing or exchanges happen on both sides civilians get hit on both sides bcz the military posts and points are placed on the LOC and the LOC is right next to the towns. Its the same with the Durand line. The border cut through.

    This is why both sides military have made arrangements in such situations with camps, bunkers e.t.c but leaving your homes to sit in a camp is not easy. It is extremely hard. Towns near LOC have colleges and schools. Life is over there. People can't leave. They simply can't uproot their life and livelihood and leave.

    The statement complete evacuation is just as ignorant, moronic and foolish as the statement that the entire LOC is fenced or 2200 km can be entirely walled. Its not possible.

    I personally hate border conflicts. I hate them. The most useless form of warfare. There is no conquest. There is no invasion. No defence. No liberation. There is only death and death without consciousness.

    But hey both sides have lost thousands of soldiers to this mad form of warfare and as many civilians and if we can't solve the problem after all of this then we are never solving it.

    Our children will be sitting in front of the TV day after we have celebrated our hundredth independence day and a ticker will come on their news channel.

    " we are giving you this breaking news. India started firing on the LOC breaking ceasefire line. Pakistan responded appropriately. Enemy guns fell silent"

    And the Indian children will be sitting and this ticker will flash on.

    " this just in. We are breaking this news that Pakistan has violated the ceasefire and started firing on the LOC. Indian army gave an appropriate response. Enemy guns fell silent. "

    And they would be here having the exact callous discussions I have witnessed this past month.

    @Joe Shearer @hellfire @Oscar @WAJsal
     
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    Well, TBH, we did not expect that much violation from Indian Side that mostly targets civilian populace due to desperation as well as a war tactic to enforce PA that may not opt further skirmish firing due to the fear of Civilian losses that we mostly consider.

    Such anxiety and tension is on both sides among residents but the things is, there wouldn't be such number of Civilian Killings on Indian side due to PA against the number of civilians martyrs at this side of the LoC which mostly include children because of IA shelling. The war monger PM is forcing and pushing for such which is solely based upon the extremist ideas of minds which speaks volume about the person's approach and stance that how he wants to treat the world and the way he thinks about to cover the incompetence/atrocities and war crimes in Indian Occupied Kashmir through such diverging tactics.
     
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    ISPR Official

    2 hours ago

    Indian troops targeted a civil Bus near LoC in Neelam valley . 4 embraced shahadat while 7 are injured.Civil bus has been targeted near Dhudnial .


    What else do we expect from them that for numbers and scoring, can go to such level.
     
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    Really sincerely appreciate your sensitive and thoughtful post.
     
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    My god! The border is hotter than I thought....
     
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    The reality is tea boy Modi is in bed with his zionist masters and has been given the green light to open up another front on Islam on the Eastern front. Zions have been arming India to the teeth , even Russia has been supplying lethal weapons beyond reasonable defence needs to India. Expect a long and extended war of attrition along the border. India won't cross Pakistan's nuke threshold as it will face dire consequences but will attempt to bleed Pakistan's economy with a huge war bill.

    Unfortunately the cow piss drinkers don't realise PA can go from a defence posture to an offensive one and India will lose territory as their soldiers always run when it comes to real battle.
     
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