NATO is not EU, they don't really care about economy or "defunct" democracies. What NATO care about is how they can defend each other, and in this case, Sweden and Finland combine bring them more than Turkey would do. And that is a fact. unless you want to dispute that, then I will need to hear your argument.Seriously asking that? I mean sweden and finland are at momemt woke defunct democracies which live in bubble of comfortable conditions, they will cose more problems in chain of decisioning then they contribute with their gadgets,usa push them in nato to sell them more toys only
Choosing them over Turkie, Usa woud be left with only pkk amd israel as solid allies in middle east and i doubt that think tankers there are that stupid.
And compaining about sanctions i find it as *** move as hungary, greece, germany and france are all more or less same with that even worse as france propose ukraina to give up some land to appease putin, so get of yoir high horse and clean up the house first before pointing fingers elsewhere.
On the other hand. As I said, Middle East would be the same with or without turkey, I mean would Egypt, Jordan, Saudi or even moderate like Iraq would bail on NATO if Turkey is not involved? Or would Iran, Syria or Yemen more pronged toward NATO if Turkey is involved??
And finally, you still have not explain why Turkey is important to NATO, other than what you claim "It will only left with PKK and Israel as solid allies in the middle east"
I really try to have a pleasant argument with you, but if you have to choose those kind of language and try to name call me, then I guess we are done here.