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Finland's applying for NATO will naturally bring new factors to China-Finland ties: Spokesperson

Apollon

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Ukraine is not EU member. Without US, EU dares not to challenge Russia. Mind my words: Europe will drastically decline from 2022. It will lose power both politically and economically. We all realized EU is a US pawn. The inflation in EU will last forever after it loses Russia.

When Ukraine falls next would be poland and baltics. As putin said he wants eurasian empire from Lissabon to Vladivostok.


Thats a threat for us. And we destroy that threat. As EU said, no negotiations with Putin. This will be decided on battlefield in Ukraine.


Europe did not bow to Hitler and wont do it now. If history proves one thing, then that dictators like putin should never get any concession.


As i said, Russia can leave Ukraine, replace putin and pay reparations. Its that simple.
 

A.P. Richelieu

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China is a friend of both Russia and Ukraine and China never supports wars, what do you expect China to do? What China is opposing is Nato expansion, China holds nothing against Ukraine. Besides, China, just like every country and government, has the right to express her stance and positions.
You mean that China is opposing that Sweden and Finland have the rights of sovereign countries.
 

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China position is neutral, China doesn't want to see war and China doesn't want to see Nato expansion, we condemn Nato.


China is not a war mongering country like US, what do you expect China to do? and China is as stupid as EU to shoot herself in the foot.

NATO should expand into pacific so smaller nations would become better protected from expansionist powers.

Cooperation between nations is always good as it increases stability and lesses changes of conflicts.
 
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Beny Karachun

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China is a friend of both Russia and Ukraine and China never supports wars, what do you expect China to do? What China is opposing is Nato expansion, China holds nothing against Ukraine. Besides, China, just like every country and government, has the right to express her stance and positions.
NATO expansion is good.
 

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Oh, when can these European be a little more civilized. You are rich, but behave still like very young child.

European countries, including Russia, became rich from robbering and plundering colonies, directly or indirectly, not from democracy. But is it very bizarre that you sincerely believe your current "universal democracy" or "liberal democracy" or whatever English term you can invent, system will exist forever, despite the fact that it has been crumbling after less than 80 years of existence, taking WWII as the milestone.

Chinese (and East Asian including Japanese, Korean) mentality is very different to yours, so do not use your standard to judge them.
 

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China supports Russia what has invaded Ukraine despite claiming that Chinese state supports every nations right to have their borders untouched.

How does that work?
How did China support Russia's invasion of Ukraine ? China is officially opposed to the invasion. China just doesn't want to side with US and NATO to gang up on Russia, it's that simple. You European and Yankees think Chinese are so stupid that they should dance to your tunes anytime you call so to become enemy of Russia to stab it so the two large neighbours will destroy each other for you Westerners' sake ? Your wish of China against Russia is against China's geo-strategic interest of good relationship between the two nations and no country not just China will be that stupid to fulfill your wishes. The Ukraine war is an European problem, it is created between Russia and USA along with NATO. So don't blame on Chinese on this and many other world problems because you can't solve the problems now.
 
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NATO should expand into pacific so smaller nations would become better protected from expansionist powers.

"NATO is a North Atlantic organisation, China has nothing to do with the North Atlantic." - Emmanuel Macron

 

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"NATO is a North Atlantic organisation, China has nothing to do with the North Atlantic." - Emmanuel Macron

NATO is not in Asia but China is in Europe.

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The map is in Turkish and highlights Turkey, but that's not what I mean. I use this because I couldnt find an equivalent map. Here you see how China economically surrounds Europe.

Here, I will not talk at length about China's infrastructure investments in many East Africa and Mediterranean countries, even in countries with Black Sea coasts such as Georgia and Turkey.

Let's just look within the EU framework: After Greece sold the Port of Piraeus to China, the Southern corridor quickly strengthened. It ranked 23rd in the world in terms of container volume. It ranks first in the Mediterranean. At the same time, it reached a container volume of close to 6 million TEU. Thus, it became the 4th port in Europe. COSCO wants to make a total volume of 11 million TEU with new investments.

The middle corridor is getting stronger through Turkey, but which country is behind critical infrastructure investments in the EU, such as the Budapest-Belgrade railway projects?

French politicians have a serious shortsightedness problem. We understood this when they started their invasion of Libya and then they tried to do business with a putschist structure there, but I'm afraid many people still haven't realized this situation.
 
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etylo

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NATO should expand into pacific so smaller nations would become better protected from expansionist powers.

Cooperation between nations is always good as it increases stability and lesses changes of conflicts.
More likely to wage wars on other countries than protecting small countries like wars in Iraq, Afaghan, Libya and Syria.
 

etylo

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NATO is not in Asia but China is in Europe.

FTbip5VWAAAp5nQ

The map is in Turkish and highlights Turkey, but that's not what I mean. I use this because I couldnt find an equivalent map. Here you see how China economically surrounds Europe.

Here, I will not talk at length about China's infrastructure investments in many East Africa and Mediterranean countries, even in countries with Black Sea coasts such as Georgia and Turkey.

Let's just look within the EU framework: After Greece sold the Port of Piraeus to China, the Southern corridor quickly strengthened. It ranked 23rd in the world in terms of container volume. It ranks first in the Mediterranean. At the same time, it reached a container volume of close to 6 million TEU. Thus, it became the 4th port in Europe. COSCO wants to make a total volume of 11 million TEU with new investments.

The middle corridor is getting stronger through Turkey, but which country is behind critical infrastructure investments in the EU, such as the Budapest-Belgrade railway projects?

French politicians have a serious shortsightedness problem. We understood this when they started their invasion of Libya and then they tried to do business with a putschist structure there, but I'm afraid many people still haven't realized this situation.
You Turks just don't stir up that many troubles in the world !
 

WotTen

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French politicians have a serious shortsightedness problem.

France knows that this anti-China hysteria is pushed by the US to demonize a challenger to American domination. The EU wanted to be that challenger so of course, it is not happy about China leapfrogging it in that race. The EU doesn't want a strong China but they also don't want to be America's pawns in its global plan.

France, especially, is wise to the US-UK Anglo axis and does not want to be manipulated.
 

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