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Marriage of one's own free will is the basic right of every girl. Islam gives rights to women. Marriage of choice is central to these rights. University administration should reconsider its decision, it is against Islam to consider women as properties.


See our beloved science & technology (who has actually done his intermediate in Commerce) is maligning the image of our country.

So basically he has alleged 4 things:

1. Pakistani girls/women are not married of their own free will and thus every marriage is a forced marriage.

2. People of Pakistan consider women their property.

3. University expelled those students because of proposal and not because of PDA and the accompanying reluctance of both students to show after disciplinary committee.

4. The said act was unacceptable because a girl proposed a guy otherwise it would have been okay. While in reality if a guy proposed a girl even in more respectable way he would be called a creep, pervert and what not by these rented feminazis.


@Iltutmish @Enigma SIG @Imran Khan @AUz @Areesh @arjunk


Please note this thread is not for the discussion of whether the university did right or wrong (for that we have another thread) but only to discuss whether this is an acceptable behavior from a federal minister.
 
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he is 100% right pakistanis can not face truth . mixing own tribal culture with islam for your all bad deeds and blame it islam ? where islam said karo kari / watta satta/ wani / sawara / honor killing / torture of female is ok ?


1. Pakistani girls/women are not married of their own free will and thus every marriage is a forced marriage.
answer - yes more then half marriages are forced marriages . what elders decide girls have no choice but to shut up and take it .
2. People of Pakistan consider women their property.
answer - more then that they consider them not only proprty but also they kill them hundreds of female every year . throw acid on them .is another issue .

3. University expelled those students because of proposal and not because of PDA and the accompanying reluctance of both students to show after disciplinary committee.
answer -university should not have bother personal matters but pakistanis are mostly khudai faujdar . decipline ? lolllzz

4. The said act was unacceptable because a girl proposed a guy otherwise it would have been okay. While in reality if a guy proposed a girl even in more respectable way he would be called a creep, pervert and what not by these rented feminazis.

answer . whom proposed whom should not be matter of anyone let people proposed marred do whatever they want no one should bother them . paksitani's half problems will be solved if we just mind our business . taliban are here because they think they should imposed some kind of radical views on society that is why 70k pakistanis killed because a group of people want to imposed his agenda on masses . same can be said every islamist terrorsit group like ISIS alqaida boko haram .
 
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Pakistan needs to revive its Islamic identity and culture and stop bootlicking each and every foreigner and his culture. Be it British, Chinese or what not. The university has a set of rules, why is a federal minister riding on the libtard wave? It’s not his business to comment on two random people and their desire to publicly share „love“.
 

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So basically he has alleged 4 things:

1. Pakistani girls/women are not married of their own free will and thus every marriage is a forced marriage.

2. People of Pakistan consider women their property.

3. University expelled those students because of proposal and not because of PDA and the accompanying reluctance of both students to show after disciplinary committee.

4. The said act was unacceptable because a girl proposed a guy otherwise it would have been okay. While in reality if a guy proposed a girl even in more respectable way he would be called a creep, pervert and what not by these rented feminazis.
No he hasn't. He has just exposed your Bughz Imran.
why is a federal minister riding on the libtard wave?
Because it's not illegal for an Insafian to be a liberal.
It’s not his business to comment on two random people and their desire to publicly share „love“.
It's not? He is elected MNA and govt minister.
 

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What science degree he holds to govern such a ministry??
Lol. In parliamentary democracy, you can't have technocrats as heads of ministries. This form of govt is called presidential system.
In parliamentary democracy, technocrats that actually run the ministries are chief secretaries. And they hold relevant degrees to the ministry.
PM Imran Khan doesn't have relevant degree either yet he is overseeing all ministries.
Fawad Chaudhary is a ch*tiya of highest order. He is also the main backer of Aurat March in the cabinet.
PTI is not a right, left, liberal, leftist, conservative type of a party. It has no specific ideological tilt. Anyone can join PTI and keep his / her ideological beliefs that makes the party only national / federal party of Pakistan.
This guy doesn't hold the same backward extremist views as I do so he sucks.
Exactly. Just because Fawad Chaudhry is a liberal, doesn't make him a bad person.
 
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English translation:

Marriage of one's own free will is the basic right of every girl. Islam gives rights to women. Marriage of choice is central to these rights. University administration should reconsider its decision


See our beloved science & technology (who has actually done his intermediate in Commerce) is maligning the image of our country.

So basically he has alleged 4 things:

1. Pakistani girls/women are not married of their own free will and thus every marriage is a forced marriage.

2. People of Pakistan consider women their property.

3. University expelled those students because of proposal and not because of PDA and the accompanying reluctance of both students to show after disciplinary committee.

4. The said act was unacceptable because a girl proposed a guy otherwise it would have been okay. While in reality if a guy proposed a girl even in more respectable way he would be called a creep, pervert and what not by these rented feminazis.


@Iltutmish @Enigma SIG @Imran Khan @AUz @Areesh @arjunk


Please note this thread is not for the discussion of whether the university did right or wrong (for that we have another thread) but only to discuss whether this is an acceptable behavior from a federal minister.
Firstly, he's speaking his mind which isn't a crime. We do need to combat system issues with our culture; acid throwing is a real problem. Forced marriages are a real problem (seen the fallout of some in nearby family friends). Harassment in the workplace is a real problem.

1. That would be a gross generalization to make. Islam requires the consent of the "wali" for marriage (may differ for certain sects).
2. This is a cultural issue and has nothing to do with Islam.
3. Well if the students didn't show up to the committee, fault lies with them for being expelled.
4. Again, cultural issue.

There are systemic cultural issues which can be fixed by basic education and interaction with the opposite sex. I've seen people in my company who have a hard time keeping eye contact with the other gender (they're graduates).

I don't care what other people do on their dime and time. Being in public requires a basic sense of decency and if you can't control yourself, might be a good time to choke down on a couple of delay sprays.
 

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He is of opinion as many others that students should have been suspended only. Kicking them out was too harsh.
 

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He is of opinion as many others that students should have been suspended only. Kicking them out was too harsh.
They were kicked out because they refused to show up in front of the disciplinary committee for the hearing.

How is that university's fault? You would get expelled in the US too. One time me and my buddies painted the floor of our dorms (here in US uni) with funny paintings. We were called into oversight committee due to breach of discipline and 'damage' of university property etc.

Now take a wild guess what would have happened if we refused to go to the meeting? Yup...expulsion.

University did nothing wrong. Its literally standard procedure
 

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They were kicked out because they refused to show up in front of the disciplinary committee for the hearing.

How is that university's fault? You would get expelled in the US too. One time me and my buddies painted the floor of our dorms (here in US uni) with funny paintings. We were called into oversight committee due to breach of discipline and 'damage' of university property etc.

Now take a wild guess what would have happened if we refused to go to the meeting? Yup...expulsion.

University did nothing wrong. Its literally standard procedure
Anyway it's not as big of a deal as people are making it.
 

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“Marriage of one's own free will is the basic right of every girl. Islam gives rights to women. Marriage of choice is central to these rights. University administration should reconsider its decision”

Absolutely everything Fawad Chaudhry said was correct.

The only people maligning Pakistan and Islam are the ones criticizing him.

Thread title updated to accurately represent what Fawad Chaudhry said.
 

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Is he high on something?
You must be dumb to say something like that.
Islam gives the right of free will, but not of degeneracy and cheap romeo-juliet stunts.
I do support womens rights, but this is getting out of hand, either you r a Islamic Republic or just some other cheap democracy.
 

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Is he high on something?
You must be dumb to say something like that.
Islam gives the right of free will, but not of degeneracy and cheap romeo-juliet stunts.
I do support womens rights, but this is getting out of hand, either you r a Islamic Republic or just some other cheap democracy.
What did he say that was wrong and why?

Hurling foaming at the mouth abuse just because you’re triggered does not count as debate or a rational rebuttal of Fawad Chaudhry’s comments.
 

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What did he say that was wrong and why?

Hurling foaming at the mouth abuse just because you’re triggered does not count as debate or a rational rebuttal of Fawad Chaudhry’s comments.
Why can't he just STFU and focus on his own ministry?

well he can't. Since he is just another liberal douchebag who gets turned on whenever something remotely related to Islam is mentioned
 

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Why can't he just STFU and focus on his own ministry?

well he can't. Since he is just another liberal douchebag who gets turned on whenever something remotely related to Islam is mentioned
He has a complete right to express his views. Why should he shut up? How is a tweet taking away from his time in his ministry, where he has actually taken a lot of good initiatives.

You’re refusing to actually explain why his comments are wrong - that’s the topic of this thread, assuming you disagree with them.
 

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He has a complete right to express his views. Why should he shut up? How is a tweet taking away from his time in his ministry, where he has actually taken a lot of good initiatives.

You’re refusing to actually explain why his comments are wrong - that’s the topic of this thread, assuming you disagree with them.
He didn't "express his opinion" about destruction of Karachi at hands of Pee Pee Pee. There are many things that are far more important than this where university has definitely done the right thing

Why Mr Minister gets agitated whenever something related to Islam is mentioned? How long would he continue to act like a clown?
What did he say that was wrong and why?
Islam doesn't allow hugging and intimacy between Namehram and that too in public

Now since Mr Minister seems to be an expert on Islam and he even mentioned it in his tweet. He shouldn't be supporting this behavior by two idiots instead he should support university which did the right thing by expelling these two high on hormonal imbalance idiots

But no. Mr Minister clearly has some issues whenever Islam is mentioned and jumps in between whenever Islam or religion is mentioned
 

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