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FC-31 v2.0 First flight 2016.12.23

Discussion in 'Pakistan Air Force' started by Development C&P, Dec 23, 2016.

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  1. CHINA83NEWS

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    I am in shenyang, where are you from?
     
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    Apologies for my limited knowledge, but what I have learnt from my young Chinese friends is that the newer generation is shunning the historical notion of Chinese exceptionalism and supremacy held since 2000 BC. I could be interpreting this completely wrong, please dont take offense i would like to learn more
     
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    PAF has been offered "partnership" in the
    There is less than zero chance of F35 entering PAF. J31 is the most likely. We are being offered full partnership status.
     
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    First Pakistan's air defense early warning system for supporting
     
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    One day if I see FC31 in PAF's color, like dream come true.

    J10 had missed its debut in PAF, I don't want PAF to miss FC31 again.
     
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    PLZ-45/ 155mm ?
     
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    i dont see any possibility of F35, Pak is ally of China now and does not suit for USA to give Pak F35 . Even F 16 is not possible. Well i like this streategy of PAF to increase the bar of performance for tech chinese team to increase the performance of FC 31 to the level of F35 . Its good but PAF only has a FC31 option for 5th gen plane.
     
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    Pakistan sacrifice lots by siding with China, we make sure you will gain lot more than what you lost. Mark my word!

    The higher demand PAF pose on FC31, the better performance FC31 will give out in the future. Don't give SAC time to leisure, keep push them.
     
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    F35 ? no chance, neither USA wants to give to us nor our people have much trust in them,.. so its out of question..

    TFX,. its still a long way, if we plan for it then i think India will ahve their 5th gen fighters before us and also Rafale will make a very strong combo that Pak won't b able to counter,.

    So the only realistic option i believe is FC31,. it'll in time and would b ideal to counter Rafale and other 5th gen options that India goes for in the future.
     
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    It could be in mass production by 2020, provided final basic design is produced and accepted by mid 2017. This would give 1.5 years for systems, weapons and tactic development with a short batch production of 15-18 aircraft. This was the way JF-17 was developed.. 50 aircraft per block and in 5-7 years this aircraft would be fully developed into an advance 5th gen aircraft.

    Really! Have you heard the Idiom
    "Early bird catches the worm"

    Well China uses both methodologies.

    J-10's followed the concept of J-11's before they were upgraded, hence you can see that those aircraft are in very high numbers. There upgrades were produced in the same way as LM and Boeing.

    Where as PAF invented a new concept which would keep the cost of production and upgrade low, hence JF-17 were manufactured in blocks of 50. This allowed PAF to upgrade as well as manufacture the upgraded aircraft simultaneously as well as continue development of next block.

    Well this does not put any limit on the love for the F-16's on this forum. You can not quantify love period.

    Sir, the basis LM thought PAF would be a potential customer by 2025 was not based on the fact of economic growth but on the delivery of fifth generation platforms to India. In 2014 T-50 PAK-FA project faced financial problems due to falling oil prices and low economic growth in Russia. India also panicked at this to rush for procurement of Rafales as well as saw the local AMCA to be shelved.

    Moreover TFX project was also introduced and the Turks advertised Pakistan to be interested in this, though till now no official conformation or denial has come from Pakistan.

    If PAF decided to purchase F-35's it has time till 2022 till then the F-16 can be operated.

    The reason could be a next generation helmet might be under development.

    If this happened then PAF would also request for EJ200 for JF-17 and option of TFX opens up a the replacement of F-16's.
    A J31 with EJ-200 also opens up GCC market.

    It would be a very interesting development. What new technologies would be seen...

    KSA wold go for TFX to replace EFT and J-31 would replace tornados in my opinion.
     
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    Why Turkey develop TFX while buy F35? I think they are quite ambitious.
     
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