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Fake/edited sub-titles "Lets cook an American Threat": Imran Khan's audio with Azam Khan leaked by PMLN govt

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There is no hope left no truths no rights no justice in the country
We are daily fed lies as gospel by the establishment.


Can the last honest person in Pakistan please turn off the lights
The country has gone .
 

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Doesn't prove that cipher was fake. They wanted to take the issue public. Listen what they say in end k letter ghaib hay, kon le gaya. Infact it proves there is something.
Just make the original cipher public and expose IK if there were no threats, let the ppl see it and decide. Stupid dumb tactics by a stupid dumb dying establishment.
 
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Doesn't prove that cipher was fake. They wanted to take the issue public. Listen what they say in end k letter ghaib ho, kon le gaya. Infact it proves there is something.
Just make the original cipher public and expose IK if there were no threats, let the ppl see it and decide. Stupid dumb tactics by a stupid dumb dying establishment.

Don't forget, Maryam urged the PTI govt to release the letter, and ab apni hakoomat hai but they aren't.

This was AFTER she said that there is no letter and had to eat her own words.
 

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Most probably this leak came from PMLN , because they were talking about this recorded chat a long time ago.. Anyway, this leak went in favor of Imran Khan ... now everyone believes in the media that there was cipher ..
Exactly. It's PML N own goal
 

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‘Dishonest’ Imran Khan Desires Conspiracies To Further Self, Husain Haqqani Says​

PTI chief had been lying all along, former diplomat says​

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Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chairman Imran Khan’s mantra of an international conspiracy to oust him from office stands exposed as false following the foreign conspiracy cypher audio leak, one-time Pakistan ambassador Husain Haqqani to the United States said on Wednesday.
Haqqani made the comments while appearing in flagship Naya Daur TV show Khabar Say Agay. He said those well-versed in diplomacy knew Khan had been lying since day one. There was no truth in allegations of a regime change being undertaken, he said.
Haqqani said Khan had attempted to make a mountain out of a molehill. It now stood confirmed that this was a strategy of his and he had been lying all along, the former diplomat said.
He said a probe into the leaks must be carried out since it constituted a security breach. Haqqani said Khan never had an issue with conspiracies. He himself had conspired to induct turncoats in the PTI with the then ISI chief, he said. Khan, Haqqani said, was all for conspiracies as long as they furthered his interests.
Kamran Bokhari, a Pakistani researcher based in the United States, said cracking what purpose leaking the audios served was a question worth looking into. Time was not ripe to posit an opinion on the issue this early, he said.
Bokhari said Israeli spyware Pegasus had been used to snoop on those featured in the audios. ‘This may point towards either Indian or American involvement.’
He said while the audio leaks featured civilians of note, it would be interesting to see if recordings of senior military men also followed.
Flagship Naya Daur TV show Khabar Say Aagay streams Monday-Saturday at 9pm.



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It confirms that cipher was made up through fake minutes of purposely arranged meeting.

Stupid ... Cipher is not made up infact he dont have the exact copy ... They r planning how to document it officially ...

PS was saying that Shah Mehmood will read the letter but in minutes (of meeting) we will change the wording of the letter.



Why would they change the minutes of the meeting??
Because they dont trust foreign secetary who hide the letter ... Foreign secetary was not expected to right the truth
 

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Stupid ... Cipher is not made up infact he dont have the exact copy ... They r planning how to document it officially ...

This is the point that most seem to be missing from the audio.

The only reason they call this meeting of 4 is to document the whole disucssion and existence of the letter in official documents.

Imran Khan says that ambassador nay letter bheja hai, to it is already in official bureaucratic documentation (diary number lag jana in informal words).

But Azam Khan stresses that it's not, and after this meeting it will be. Baki meeting kay minutes mainay hi bananay hain, to I will do that so that the secretive part does not get out, but the substance remains the same.

This is all because the letter was hidden from the PMO in the first place.

TBH, I was actually doubting PTI when they initially claimed (I think Murad Saeed was the first one) who said that the letter was hidden from the PMO, and I took that down as political rhetoric. But after this audio, they seem to stand vindicated on that point.

Again, as Kashif Abbasi rightly said, talking in a personal environment a person uses very different words than what they use in public. As long as the substance and operative part remains the same, the choice of words should not be holding weight. But you cannot say that it is day in a personal meeting but night in public.

Warna to in main say kabhi koi fauji messes ya informal political/bureaucratic interactions main beth jaye to hairan ho jayen :P
 

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Lets take 2 steps back.

Part of me thinks, the leaks are being orchestrated by elements of the establishment. The timing of Dar’s appointment and the coming November selection of COAS. There could be friction within the army and some elements leaked the PMLN conversation and PTI conversation for plausible deniability. The military related conversations haven’t leaked as yet. Something to ponder about.

IndiShell is negotiating with the government, which is a bad thing. The public needs to know the truth. Even if it means chaos in the short term. These leaks would prove to be good for Pakistan in the long run.

Extremely disturbing but I believe the leaks are good for Pakistan in the long run, if IndiShell decides to.
 

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‘Dishonest’ Imran Khan Desires Conspiracies To Further Self, Husain Haqqani Says​

PTI chief had been lying all along, former diplomat says​

by News Desk

September 28, 2022

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‘Dishonest’ Imran Khan Desires Conspiracies To Further Self, Husain Haqqani Says
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Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chairman Imran Khan’s mantra of an international conspiracy to oust him from office stands exposed as false following the foreign conspiracy cypher audio leak, one-time Pakistan ambassador Husain Haqqani to the United States said on Wednesday.
Haqqani made the comments while appearing in flagship Naya Daur TV show Khabar Say Agay. He said those well-versed in diplomacy knew Khan had been lying since day one. There was no truth in allegations of a regime change being undertaken, he said.
Haqqani said Khan had attempted to make a mountain out of a molehill. It now stood confirmed that this was a strategy of his and he had been lying all along, the former diplomat said.
He said a probe into the leaks must be carried out since it constituted a security breach. Haqqani said Khan never had an issue with conspiracies. He himself had conspired to induct turncoats in the PTI with the then ISI chief, he said. Khan, Haqqani said, was all for conspiracies as long as they furthered his interests.
Kamran Bokhari, a Pakistani researcher based in the United States, said cracking what purpose leaking the audios served was a question worth looking into. Time was not ripe to posit an opinion on the issue this early, he said.
Bokhari said Israeli spyware Pegasus had been used to snoop on those featured in the audios. ‘This may point towards either Indian or American involvement.’
He said while the audio leaks featured civilians of note, it would be interesting to see if recordings of senior military men also followed.
Flagship Naya Daur TV show Khabar Say Aagay streams Monday-Saturday at 9pm.



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Husain Haqqani ..........enough said ...​

 

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