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Even Alan got convinced after seeing three irrefutable evidences. su30 is Russia's bigtime export success. To save it's repo, they requested us not to share the sensitive data openly. Indians have shamefully admitted its downing atleast thrice.
 

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Cant really trust everything on that forum since its a f16 fan site. The comments have been edited their substantially since i last posted. I suspect some behind the scenes manipulation by the before mentioned desi mod there, since his old post has also been removed.
India just can't hide anything, even if we want to to. Such a massive plane, crashing in kashmir without a trace. ? Fanboys here can write what they want but even they know the truth.
Three quarters of a million military personals in just over two hundred thousand square kilometres, with a curfew on 8 million population but still India can't hide anything? Really? I have observed here Indian members justifying pallet guns usage on local Kashmiris ? How much there is an access for International observers/media is still a question mark. If your naivety can justify lock down of 8 million Kashmirs, than naturally you shouldn't force your brain cells to think about shot downed Sukhoi-30 being on the passive receiving end of Republic TV kinda channels.
 

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Even Alan got convinced after seeing three irrefutable evidences. su30 is Russia's bigtime export success. To save it's repo, they requested us not to share the sensitive data openly. Indians have shamefully admitted its downing atleast thrice.
Come to think of it, India's top brass, both military and civilian, have repeated degraded Russia's most advanced fighter jet claiming it was not good enough while directly saying that Rafael is far superior. I am sure it must not have been sitting well with the Russians.
 

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Even Alan got convinced after seeing three irrefutable evidences. su30 is Russia's bigtime export success. To save it's repo, they requested us not to share the sensitive data openly. Indians have shamefully admitted its downing atleast thrice.
SU-30 was their heavy weight champion which got knocked out in its first title defense.
 
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Folks, it cannot get more impartial and official than this.

F-16.net has officially attributed an Su-30 kill to airframe #84606.

It is pertinent to note that F-16.net is run by professional staff from the United States and just recently they were able to validate the Su-30 kill through different sources in the military circles.

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Cheers.
So much ado for nothing.
They have clearly mentioned their source is the old AFM article by Alan Warnes who in turn has admitted that the entire para on Su-30 in his article was copied word to word from Kaiser Tufails blog who in turn has been forced admit No confirmation.



Thus F-16.net is not independently confirming anything.
 

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So much ado for nothing.
They have clearly mentioned their source is the old AFM article by Alan Warnes who in turn has admitted that the entire para on Su-30 in his article was copied word to word from Kaiser Tufails blog who in turn has been forced admit No confirmation.



Thus F-16.net is not independently confirming anything.
ok, but Your Raptor of the east MKI is only for dodging AMRAAM not for interception/destruction of the ENEMY on 27 FEB, please tell us
 

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So much ado for nothing.
They have clearly mentioned their source is the old AFM article by Alan Warnes who in turn has admitted that the entire para on Su-30 in his article was copied word to word from Kaiser Tufails blog who in turn has been forced admit No confirmation.



Thus F-16.net is not independently confirming anything.

When you bestow upon your pilots the honor of wearing the patch of an 'AMRAAM Dodger' whilst showing a detonated AMRAAM on your national television --- your inadvertently confirming alot of things ...

Just a little reality check for the ones that engage in the game of sources and he said she said --- Let's get it through our heads

On the day of 27th of feb, 2019

1.Two birds were lost which were independently verified and not up for debate - Both were Indian
2.6 military personnel lost - All 6 were Indian.
3.1 pilot captured - Indian

No F-16's were lost, a claim disputed by the IAF however supported by independent sources and even sources that are more or less Indian (Christina Fair). So in absence of that the greatest achievement of the IAF was the "AMRAAM Dodger" narrative -- i.e. running away.

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So much ado for nothing.
They have clearly mentioned their source is the old AFM article by Alan Warnes who in turn has admitted that the entire para on Su-30 in his article was copied word to word from Kaiser Tufails blog who in turn has been forced admit No confirmation.



Thus F-16.net is not independently confirming anything.
This information is there to stay till the forum is online. Your explanations aren't of much help now.

By the way, Alan Warnes independently verified that Abhinandan didn't fire a single missile.. question your forces for once as to why Abhi was awarded with a medal.
 

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So much ado for nothing.
They have clearly mentioned their source is the old AFM article by Alan Warnes who in turn has admitted that the entire para on Su-30 in his article was copied word to word from Kaiser Tufails blog who in turn has been forced admit No confirmation.



Thus F-16.net is not independently confirming anything.
Distance to mars falls short when it is compared to If's and but's of Indians and their pleadings to save face.

Alan Warnes wouldn't write a thing without verification. His, and AFM's reputation is far more valuable than a coffee chat with PAF officials. There is a web of lies that is trapping you and you don't know it yet. Not losing an Su 30 and a false claim of F-16 kill. Both of these claims are now out in the public and IAF has come off as nothing but a political tool for your Modi and Godi media.

Ager rafale hota. To phir bhi yehi hota.
 

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For all those Indians that continuously question the credibility of SU-30 kill; shall remember that it was ISPR that on very first day said that IAF Mi-17-V/5 was not engaged by PAF and we have nothing to do with it. For everyone related directly or indirectly with IAF or any other media house in India; shall ask IAF that how come ISPR was so sure yet India took almost 6 weeks to confirm while they allegedly lost the black box to the villagers right after the crash. ISPR clearly stated that SU-30 wreckage fell in Indian Occupied Kashmir and on the same day Indian News channel interviewed civilians in IoK that witnessed an IAF jet on fire went down in Sher Makri area of Bhawani B Panchayat though later PAF shown evidence to Alan Warnes as well. That same evidence was the reason why Russian FM visited a certain office at earliest and then a lot of things were discussed. Furthermore, both IAF jets violated Air Space while Abhinandan came down in Azad Kashmir. How SU-30 MKI drifted into IoK; pretty much relates to witnesses described that IAF jet was flying from Rajori and went to Pakistan and then returned while on fire and went down in Sher Makri area of IoK.

ISPR informed in details that how many losses are caused to Indians by PAF and which one was IAF own mistake. Some internet warriors spend so much time so that their fantasy remains untouched but on other hand; the so-called intellect don't even pay attention to every little details as such. It's just a temporary relief by turning a blind eye but truth will remain as it is and will reveal itself slowly by the time whereby the lying party will commit one after another mistake to cover their lies. All these details were shared on 27th February, 2019 and still proven to be accurate, correct and true. An open invitation to Indian Experts is still available by PAF to visit and verify the wreckage of MiG-21 Bison along with all the weapons intact and never used. Interestingly, even for this, IAF never showed till date.
 

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For all those Indians that continuously question the credibility of SU-30 kill; shall remember that it was ISPR that on very first day said that IAF Mi-17-V/5 was not engaged by PAF and we have nothing to do with it. For everyone related directly or indirectly with IAF or any other media house in India; shall ask IAF that how come ISPR was so sure yet India took almost 6 weeks to confirm while they allegedly lost the black box to the villagers right after the crash. ISPR clearly stated that SU-30 wreckage fell in Indian Occupied Kashmir and on the same day Indian News channel interviewed civilians in IoK that witnessed an IAF jet on fire went down in Sher Makri area of Bhawani B Panchayat though later PAF shown evidence to Alan Warnes as well. That same evidence was the reason why Russian FM visited a certain office at earliest and then a lot of things were discussed. Furthermore, both IAF jets violated Air Space while Abhinandan came down in Azad Kashmir. How SU-30 MKI drifted into IoK; pretty much relates to witnesses described that IAF jet was flying from Rajori and went to Pakistan and then returned while on fire and went down in Sher Makri area of IoK.

ISPR informed in details that how many losses are caused to Indians by PAF and which one was IAF own mistake. Some internet warriors spend so much time so that their fantasy remains untouched but on other hand; the so-called intellect don't even pay attention to every little details as such. It's just a temporary relief by turning a blind eye but truth will remain as it is and will reveal itself slowly by the time whereby the lying party will commit one after another mistake to cover their lies. All these details were shared on 27th February, 2019 and still proven to be accurate, correct and true. An open invitation to Indian Experts is still available by PAF to visit and verify the wreckage of MiG-21 Bison along with all the weapons intact and never used. Interestingly, even for this, IAF never showed till date.
Since PAF has the black box of the MiG-21, will Indians be open to a third party verification to verify if Abhinandan fires his weapons? That should settle the debate.

As far as the SU-30, regardless of what Alan Warnes or others know, the fact remains that there are no public evidence to substantiate the shoot. Unless evidence emerges, it should be a contested claim, in my opinion.
 

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