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Exclusive: Morocco interested in acquiring Russian S-400 ground-to-air missile system

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  1. The SC

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    Morocco to negotiate acquisition of Russian S-400 ground-to-air missiles to reinforce its anti-aircraft defense (DCA), learns le360, the day after signing a Moroccan-Russian military cooperation agreement on Wednesday on the occasion of the visit of Dmitry Medvedev..

    Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev announced yesterday Wednesday (October 11th) during his working visit to Rabat, his country's decision to "deliver military products" to Morocco, but without specifying the nature of these products. Do not be deceived: it would not be the delivery of the famous Russian submarine "Amur 1650" fourth generation, nor Sukhoi bombers, as has been reported extensively by the media specializing in Defense issues. A military source contacted by le360 swept these calculations out of hand, stating that "the real need of the Moroccan army is not in submarines, nor in aircraft of war, in particular the F16, are sufficient. "

    http://m.le360.ma/politique/exclusi...ysteme-de-missiles-sol-air-russe-s-400-138449
     
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    KSA, Egypt, Morroco, whose next?
     
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    Probably the remaining Arab states.......... KSA and Egypt I understand, what about the rest? Shoot each others S400's in some sort of game on national days??? :D

    My point being, is it some sort of fashion symbol nowadays that every other Arab state is after S400?

     
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    Actually there are number of Arab states, in the negotiation phase. In the coming few months you could see actual contracts being signed.

    TBH, I would love to see us operating it, but as of now, there is no news.
     
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    This Moroccan deal came right after King Salman's visit to Russia.. just one day later the Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev flew to Morocco to sign a defense agreement and made this announcement about his country's decision to "deliver military products" to Morocco..
    There is also a strong probability for a Thermal nuclear reactor deal..
     
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    They are not just buying the hardware per se, but buying Russian goodwill as well. It would seems mid- east is realigning themselves slightly to neutral these days, but not out of US dominance...
     
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    There is no US dominance per se.. it is a choice to go for high quality products from the US.. it just happens that Russia also has some very high quality products to offer too..and with ToT..
     
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    You missed Turkey - The backstabber.
     
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    The S-400 is an ADS as well as an ABM system, since it can use the S-500 anti-ballistic missiles at high altitudes.. up to 185 km for the S-400 and 200+ for the S-500..

    Algeria and Bahrain expressed interest too.. a while ago!
     
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    Turkey has laid out some tough ToT conditions, so it actually might not happen. Although I hope they do buy it.

    I can see Bahrain happening very fast, once the Saudi deal is done.
     
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    Russia refused to sell S-400 to India unless they bought PAK-FA. Russians know how to play hard ball.
     
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    Turkey wants the S-400 missiles ToT.. this is a very hard demand on Russia as it was on China for the HQ system:

    Turkey is a member of NATO and there are elements and military systems belonging to NATO located on its territory, Let's assume that Putin has agreed to transfer the technology of the system to the Turks, how can he ensure the secrecy of this technology in Turkey knowing that Erdogan himself does not trust the Turkish army!?
    The opposition to the missile tech transfer does not come from Putin personally who would love to get the money to better the economy..it comes from the Russian high military command ..

    And this is why..
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    The US backed FETO Terrorist Organization shot down Russian Jet

    The US backed FETO Terrorist Organization killed Russian Ambassador in Ankara

    and Real backstabber is the US which gives weapons to Pkk-Ypg terrorists to attack NATO member TURKEY and to kill Turkish People



    Turkey has signed an agreement with Italian-French consortium EUROSAM to develop its HISAR-U long range high altitude National Air Defense System

    btw Turkey has developed 600+ km GaN based AESA Radar for HISAR-U long range high altitude Air Defense System Project
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    and Turkish HISAR-A low altitude Air Defense System will enter into service by 2020 .... ( 10km altitude )
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    and Turkish HISAR-O medium altitude Air Defense System will enter into service by 2021.... ( 20km altitude )
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    and Turkey buys 4 batteries of S400 Air Defense Systems ,,, 2 batteries for co-production in Turkey

    Turkey has signed a deal with Russia and a deposit for the S-400 has been put down

    also ERDOGAN wants to buy S500 Air Defense System in the next years

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    From this article, at the End, it says that "Algeria HAS s-400 battery already in use" Sources are pics of BAZ-64022 trucks with launching ramp spotted in ALgeria back in 2015...
     
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    Turkey may get most unique S-400 system as it will have Turkish made systems too, so no big issue for Russia.