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Every One of India’s Nishant Drones Has Crashed

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It appears that DRDO is to learn the drone technology from RC air craft models made by school students of western countries and they fly successfully RC models with video camera mounted on it. DRDO has come out a shame for India.
Problem with DRDO is they refuse to learn. They are habituated to free money and lack of accountability. If they sit on their fat a$$ and do nothing they will get their salary and other benefits, if they toil and work hard still they will be getting the same money and no extra incentives. So why work hard?
 

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It appears that DRDO is to learn the drone technology from RC air craft models made by school students of western countries and they fly successfully RC models with video camera mounted on it. DRDO has come out a shame for India.
Janab there are different type of UAV, even you could buy from alibaba now don't think its a burraq aka ch-3 at your backyard. Ever heaed MALE HALE UAV
 

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Tejas is an indigenous fighter, ill give you a proof of it.....when tejas project was first started, all major parts like its radar, engine, EW suit, landing gear etc, were all started simultaneously, as a result, we made kaveri, we made uttam aesa radar, we made mayavi EW suit and designed all the components, now the questions arises, where is all of this stuff now??because it was not upto the mark and because it was our first attempt, we went further for the systems to be excellent, and just because it was taking too much time our team went for equivalent of all the equipment's mentioned above.......now tell me does Pakistan have any kind of jet engine tech or a program???does Pakistan has any kind of radar development?? Do you have any EW suite made indigenously??just because our fighter uses foreign equipments doesn't makes it impotent..... Indigenous efforts never die my friend, next time when we make AMCA we will have our own engine, our own radar, our own EW suite and our own munitions..... just assembling a plane in your country doesn't makes it indigenous, you need to work hard.....our country took the initiative and now has got a formidable aerospace sector....did you use google translator to understand my hindi???urdu is an indian language, and it shares many words from hindi JAI HIND
bhaijaan,
tejas was started indigenous that doesn't mean that tejas is indigenous.. kaveri, uttam,mayavi were started for tejas but were cancelled as they were not upto date and then Russian, European, American and Israeli components were installed in tejas that made tejas as same as joint fighter like Typhoon , JF-17, F-35 etc not an indigenous fighter.. Pakistan's defense industry is not much large to bear the huge R&D, that's why we buy equipment's in small no.
Hindi and Urdu are different languages and what you are talking is in hindi.. and it is difficult to understand some hard words..
 

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bhaijaan,
tejas was started indigenous that doesn't mean that tejas is indigenous.. kaveri, uttam,mayavi were started for tejas but were cancelled as they were not upto date and then Russian, European, American and Israeli components were installed in tejas that made tejas as same as joint fighter like Typhoon , JF-17, F-35 etc not an indigenous fighter.. Pakistan's defense industry is not much large to bear the huge R&D, that's why we buy equipment's in small no.
Hindi and Urdu are different languages and what you are talking is in hindi.. and it is difficult to understand some hard words..
How Tejas is indigenous

1. Tejas designed by ADA (Indian), Certified by CELEMAC (Indian), Assembled/Integrated by HAL(Indian)

2. Kaveri -- was the parallel program, with the LCA tejas, and later it was delinked from LCA program, and it does not means that Kaveri was failure, because it reased the intended thrust goal, but then, the future requirement and modified changes increases the wt of LCA, and Kaveri could not be improved to that level of wet thrust. Its successor K9 and K10 program is still going.

3. Uttam is an AESA Radar program which is planned to enter service in 2025 with MK2, so where did you get it is canceled.

3. Mayavi is a EW suite also called as IDAS designed by DARE, India. It is on the su30MKI, and also on LCA tejas, and in Future its upgraded version in FGFA so where did you got the knowledge that it is canceled.

So whats not Indian component in Tejas

MMR - Israeli
Engine - USA
BVR - Israeli (Derby)
WVR- Israeli (Python 5)
misc. items imported

Ejection Kit - UK
Quartz nose - UK (Cobham)

Retracting Ariel fuel nozzle - UK (Cobham)
ASPJ - EL/L-8222/ ELT-568 Virgilus - Israeli/EADS Cassadian
MILDS F - EADS/Cassadian - laser warning receiver-cum-missile approach warning system


So whats Indian

Airframe build - indian
Air Intake - Indian
CFC structure - TAML (tata advance material ltd)
The open-architecture integrated defensive aids suite (IDAS) Mayavi
Operational Data link (ODL) - Indian (DARE)
Mission Computer - Indian (HAL)
EW Suite - Indian (IDAS)
RAM-1701AS radio altimeter
TACAN-2901AJ and DME-2950A tactical air navigation system combined with the ANS-1100A VOL/ILS marker
CIT-4000A Mk12 IFF transponder
COM-1150A UHF standby comms radio
HADF - Siva Pod
SDR-2010 SoftNET four-channel VHF/UHF and L-band radio
Bheem-EU brake control/engine/electrical monitoring system
Sigma-95N ring laser gyro-based inertial navigation system coupled to a GPS receiver - SAGEM
RWR - Indian Tarang MK 2/3
Glass Cockpit - Indian
Training Software - Indian


On board oxygen generator - Indian (L&T)
Pilot G-Suit - Indian
FBW - Indian
Landing Gear - Indian
Tyre - Indian (MRF)

What could be replaced in future by Indian

MMR- Uttam Aesa
BVR - Astra 1/2
LGB - Sudarshan
ALCM - Mini Brahmos

What this Unsucessful project teaches India


Design aiplane from scratch.
CFC structure, composites
Development of modeling software in India, later which was used by Airbus and Boing.
Engine Know how from scratch
FADEEC, FBW, AESA MMR
Design & Development of EW Suite (IDAS)
RCS, wind, software, weapon testing
1000 Subcontractors & Supply Chain
100 PSU/institution creating Aero ECO-system



Now compare it with the Swedish SAAB gripen

Parts imported

MMR - Selex UK/ITALY
Engine - USA license building
BVR - MBDA (Meteors)
WVR- MBDA(irst-t)
IRST - Skyward Selex
misc. items imported

Ejection Kit - UK
Quartz nose - UK (Cobham)
Retracting Ariel fuel nozzle - UK (Cobham)
ASPJ - ELT-568 Virgilus - EADS Cassadian
FBW -- Assisted by LM USA



Infact if you check both AIRBUS and BOEING they are actually integrators only with the same logic with over 40,000 Suppliers around the world.
 
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bhaijaan,
tejas was started indigenous that doesn't mean that tejas is indigenous.. kaveri, uttam,mayavi were started for tejas but were cancelled as they were not upto date and then Russian, European, American and Israeli components were installed in tejas that made tejas as same as joint fighter like Typhoon , JF-17, F-35 etc not an indigenous fighter.. Pakistan's defense industry is not much large to bear the huge R&D, that's why we buy equipment's in small no.
Hindi and Urdu are different languages and what you are talking is in hindi.. and it is difficult to understand some hard words..
Sub systems of tejas have not been cancelled, yes tejas is still our fighter, and every single development started for tejas either has been used for more development or will be used in future development's, efforts never die, AMCA will be great success if we rope in major private players, DRDO and its sister branches have sometimes let us down.......but still i believe that our private industrial approach can propell indian defence industry.....
 

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source of your claim and pls provide the official specification of Buraq
Hi,

Welcome to the board---I don't provide source of any kind----and neither do provide specifications of any kind----unless I chose to----.

Every pakistani knows that many an american drones have crashed in pakistan---just like the tomahawk cruise missiles---

So-----do your own search.
 
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