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EU President: With friends like the USA, who needs enemies?

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  1. Chinese-Dragon

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...enemies/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.94a49cf795db

    By Michael Birnbaum, May 16 2018

    Throughout the first 15 months of his presidency, Donald Trump has made four big moves that irked the United States' European partners. (Video: Sarah Parnass/Photo: Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)


    BRUSSELS — Even by the stressed standards of relations between Europe and the United States in the Trump era, European Council President Donald Tusk’s Wednesday criticisms were unusually cutting.

    At the outset of a summit of European leaders whose agenda items, point by point, have to do with the flames of crises that many Europeans see as ignited by President Trump, Tusk ripped into what he called “the capricious assertiveness of the American administration” over issues including Iran, Gaza, trade tariffs and North Korea.

    In comments to reporters and a subsequent tweet, he suggested the White House had lost touch with reality. He said Europe didn’t need enemies when it had friends like the United States. And he exhorted European leaders not to be reliant on Washington.

    Just 16 months ago, such comments would have been unimaginable coming from an E.U. leader, whose continent modeled itself on the U.S. image in the aftermath of World War II. But Europeans are increasingly exasperated by the way Trump is steering U.S. policy, objecting not only to his stances but also to what they say is erratic policymaking that switches on the whim of Fox News programmers. The shifting desires make it nearly impossible to negotiate with the White House, many diplomats say, because they cannot strike a bargain to get close to what Trump wants when he doesn’t know it himself.

    Tusk, a former prime minister of Poland who now presides over one branch of E.U. policymaking, went full zen in his angry description of Trump’s effect on Europe.

    “Looking at the latest decisions of Donald Trump, someone could even think: With friends like that, who needs enemies?” Tusk told reporters in English ahead of a summit in Sofia, Bulgaria. “But, frankly speaking, Europe should be grateful by President Trump. Because, thanks to him, we got rid of all the illusions. He has made us realize that if you need a helping hand, you will find one at the end of your arm.”


    European leaders have scrambled to salvage the 2015 agreement in which Iran agreed to halt its nuclear program, a landmark deal that many Europeans see as essential for their security. Leaders on Wednesday plan to discuss whether to direct E.U. businesses to defy U.S. sanctions against Iran, an unusual measure with uncertain chances of success that would nevertheless be a diplomatic blow to Washington.

    That came a day after many European newspapers featured dueling photographs on their front pages: the beaming visage of first daughter Ivanka Trump opening the new U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem, and the smoky carnage an hour’s drive away in Gaza, where scores of Palestinian protesters were killed by the Israeli military. The contrast has stirred up even more European anger toward Trump’s foreign policy, and the Gaza violence is another mark on the agenda for European leaders to discuss during their day and a half of meetings that starts Wednesday.

    Tusk's public comments on Wednesday also touched on the new U.S. tariffs on steel and aluminum that are set to bite on June 1 unless Trump grants a reprieve. E.U. negotiators have said that as one of the closest trading partners of the United States, they will not make concessions with a gun to their head. There appears to have been little progress in those discussions. Tusk said Europe planned to stand its ground.

    “We need to bring reality back to this discussion, which is not the case today,” he said.


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    The EU is pushing through new legislation (old legislation that is being rewritten) that will make it illegal for European companies to comply with US sanctions on Iran.

    It looks like CNPC will have to fight with Total for additional shares of Iran's South Pars gas field.
     
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    Currently Trump lead US has no friend other than Israel.
     
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    Well here is a map of how the countries voted in the UN, regarding the US stance on Jerusalem:


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    Looks like the world isn't so divided anymore. :enjoy:
     
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    The U.S has lost so much diplomatic clout due to its general numbskullery over the last 20 years
     
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    Trump has pick up fight with China and upset other east Asian allies with his trade policy. Pissed of Mexico and Latin American countries with his immigration policy and Trump wall rhetoric. Pissed off African countries with Shithole remark and anti Black bias.Pissed of Iran, Turkey and other middle eastern and muslim countries with his middle east policy.He could not improve ties with Russia.He has turned European allies into adversaries.Now only country which has a love and respect for Trump lead America is Israel.
     
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    Also, when the Israel-Palestine situation seemed to be almost peaceful, Trump suddenly announced (out of the blue) that the USA would be moving their embassy to Jerusalem.

    Which ended up spilling blood all over the Israel-Palestine border, on the front pages of every newspaper in the world, for seemingly no reason at all.

    And when Kim Jong Un was bending over backwards to make peace with South Korea, suddenly the US decides to host a provocative military exercise on their border, followed by John Bolton making threats about NK becoming the next Libya. So of course they cancelled talks with South Korea.

    It seems like they are allergic to peace. As we speak, the US is dropping a bomb on someone's head every few minutes.
     
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    How can the White House be "out of touch with reality" when the President is a reality TV show star? You are fired, Mr. Tusk!
     
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    I have no idea what they were thinking, the USA managed to isolate themselves in the P5+1 by abandoning the Iran deal (breaking promises as usual), and they isolated themselves in the entire world by moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, causing a huge amount of needless bloodshed for apparently no reason.

    Now they are going to turn around, and ask for help in sanctioning Iran (yet again), from the same countries they just screwed in the past few months for no reason at all, including their own allies.

    Donald Trump is a real genius. Meanwhile China has managed to bribe him with a cheap investment into his family holdings, as well as approving some of his family trademarks in China. He is selling out for peanuts.
     
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    A busy guy, who knows what he is gonna to come up with next.
     
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    The reason isn't 'numbskullery', but the increasing and now virtually total control of the US by the Zionists.
     
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    I don't like this "Zionists" conspiracy theory, which actually originated from America itself in 1976 (specifically the Zionist Occupied Government theory).

    It conveniently takes all the blame away from the US state, and puts the blame on the head of Jews and Zionists.

    And then those people will say, "Oh it's not the fault of America and Americans, it's the fault of Zionists! Don't blame America, blame the Zionists!" :rofl:

    It's too convenient a method to remove blame from where it belongs, solely in the hands of the US state.

    @TaiShang

    And the US will go on to bomb the shit out of people all over the globe, safe in the knowledge that a large chunk of the Earth's population will say: "Oh, America is good, it's just the Zionists who are bad! Don't blame America!"

    Too damn convenient, for America.
     
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    Music to the ears of most Americans.

    If Europe wants to go its own pay, it would be better if NATO is dissolved and replaced with a more Euro-centric military alliance. US has paid for Europe's defence long enough. If they really want to take on the US on its terms they better start spending more on defence.
     
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    How could you forget Modi's India?

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    This is what we love about Trump. His incredible ability to rupture relations out of nowhere LOL

    The Europeans are in a conundrum to say the least.

    You know what. I am loving it. Every minute of it. They were scheming and conspiring in a very cunning way. Today the tables have turned.

    We need more Trump. 8 years of Trump will seal the fate of many things.
     
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    this guy is too late we know these things since ages . USA is not friend of anyone
     
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    Yeah. Trump is the only savior of Indian Hindus(Sorry to Chaiwala)
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