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Erdoğan slams preachers over remarks on women, calls on Diyanet to take more active role

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  1. xenon54

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    President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has slammed Islamic writers over their sexist comments, calling on the Religious Affairs Directorate (Diyanet) to take a more active role in adapting religious practices to current historical and social conditions.

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    “We would never take into account the words of some marginal people who aim at nothing but to abuse the values of our religion, our nation,” Erdoğan said on Mar. 8 to mark International Women’s Day in Ankara.

    His comments came after conservative Social Fabric Foundation head Nureddin Yıldız stirred debate by making a controversial comment on violence against women.

    “Women should be grateful to God, because God allowed men to beat women and be relaxed,” Yıldız said on Mar. 3, in a video posted online.

    Yıldız was already a subject of complaint. He previously sparked outrage after suggesting that children as young as six-years-old could marry other children or adults, as well as suggesting that men and women should not get on an elevator alone together.

    Following the outrage, Ankara Public Prosecutor’s office filed a criminal complaint against Yıldız for “inciting the public to hatred and animosity.”

    “These preachers have no place in our religion,” Erdoğan shouted in his speech without giving Yıldız’s name.

    “They are either not living in this century or are living in an entirely different century because they are so impotent that they do not know Islam should be revised,” he said.

    “You cannot implement provisions that were dated 14-15 centuries ago,” he said, adding that to “carry the regulations and traditions of a specific society in a specific date would only spoil the matter.”

    He accused the preachers of using religious concepts “to be popular,” stating that “they are doing wrong not only to women but also to our belief and religion.”

    “We can never accept that,” he said.

    He said religious concepts can only be discussed by people who are capable and qualified on the issue, likening unqualified people who preach on the issue to “an elephant in a glassware shop.”

    “I invite all people who comment on the matter to be careful, not to harm themselves along with our values and not to offend our women,” he said.

    He said he had informed the deputy prime minister responsible for the Directorate of Religious Affairs (Diyanet) on the issue, calling on experts who work under the directorate in the field of interpreting the Prophet’s sayings and Islamic law to have a more active role.

    Historical revisions on women in politics

    Erdoğan also suggested that the ruling Justice and Development (AKP) has marked an “historical development in women’s participation in politics.

    “The number of female lawmakers in 2015 has raised to 81 from 24. The number of mayors and mayoral assembly members also experienced a significant development,” he said.

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/er...ls-on-diyanet-to-take-more-active-role-128470


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    This part is the real reason why im posting this, even when its rare, Erdogan does sometimes speak progressive, i'd like to hear the opinion of people in PDF.

    @Kaptaan what do you think?
     
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  2. Iqbal Ali

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    I'm not a Turkish citizen so I do not think I can comment on Turkish politics, but how can a Muslim leader say that provisions that were revealed 15 centuries are not relevant today.

    Only a hypocrite would do that.

    To say that Islam needs to be revised, means changing the religion.

    Anyways I heard that the Hurriyet is a libertine newspaper while Today's Zaman is the conservative newspaper in Turkey.

    Turks can do whatever they like in their country, but lol you cannot change what Islam says. Islam is what it is.
     
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    That's one stupid guy ....
     
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    Almost every muslim country has different customs and social codexes even when there is a aligning on some matters its still quite different everywhere.
    The change happened centuries ago already.

    Hürriyet is quoting Erdogans speech and Zaman got closed by Erdogan himself for being Gülen organizations media.
     
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    What this Yildiz commented needs to show what it says the Qur'an.

    The only thing I am aware of is tapping on the wife gently.
     
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    I'm more concerned about his remarks about marrying six years old children.. Many can't even speak properly and he is talking about getting them married...is he out of mind..because of some false hadeeth a certain class of mullah mindlessly speaks against the core principles relating to marriage and relationship.
     
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    When he was saying those remarks i was half asleep and i was shocked. He is talking like Fethullah Gulen about Islam. im still in shock. Hope he has an explanation. Totally unacceptable.
     
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    What many people didnt notice is that this is by far not his first statement you wouldnt expect from a islamic conservative politician.

    Erdogan calls for a secular Egypt
     
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    People should marry when they have the mental maturity to know what marriage means.

    Marriage is a lifelong thing. It should not be taken lightly! lol!
     
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    BTW: were you as much shocked by the remarks of Yildiz?
     
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    Well, that's unacceptable...who ever claimed this crap is out of his freaking mind
     
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    You can be secular without changing or revising Islam. And who is Yildiz?
     
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    The man Erdogan is referring to, the one who has the audacity to make such remarks.
    But thank god he is gonna get what he deserves.

    So whose remarks are more shocking?
     
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    He’s not saying it needs to be revised what he’s saying is the adaption and interpretation has to be revised and most regulations aren’t clear cut. No need to complicate things.
     
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    Well this is actually quite obvious, im surprised so many people are shocked by this.
     
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