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It needs to be replaced.
if its delivering the punch effectively, then maybe not. depends upon PA's requirements

that is what my point is
how motorway police did well ? its all about pays and budget equipment and gear . if we just give 10% of military budget to police it will wonder us . do you know a policeman go to duty on his own come back from duty to police station on his own and there is no food arrangements for him on duty . what you expect ? while army drop a guy send him food on time and then bring him back from location to unit . pays are different /medical and allowances are different everything is different .

ap khilaty sara maal fauj ko ho or umeed kerty ho police achi ho jay . phly us yateem force ko insan to banao .
In Army, everyone is getting full salaries. Govt employees are getting half salaries for now (even doctors), coz of the inflation and economy crisis.
 
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that is what my point is
how motorway police did well ? its all about pays and budget equipment and gear . if we just give 10% of military budget to police it will wonder us . do you know a policeman go to duty on his own come back from duty to police station on his own and there is no food arrangements for him on duty . what you expect ? while army drop a guy send him food on time and then bring him back from location to unit . pays are different /medical and allowances are different everything is different .

ap khilaty sara maal fauj ko ho or umeed kerty ho police achi ho jay . phly us yateem force ko insan to banao .
The armys share in budget has been discussed to death..15 to 16 % opposed to wild figures.

That's how they manipulate the nation into believing that they are saviors.
Then what is saving you? Who is you savior apart from almighty.
 

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Not to downplay the sacrifices made by and risks taken by our soldiers, but what Imran is saying is that workers in other professions also sacrifice their comfort for the people.
Hadees also says anyone who leaves home to earn just livlihood is on jihaad;
Other professional also make various degrees of sacrifices; for parents, for spouse, for children, for community; but none of those other professions do what Imran worded as "inka ahsan chardha hai hum per" & "do they make it ahsan e azeem ever".


e.g. do we ever appreciate the risks taken by WAPDA or sewerage workers to the same extent?
Or do they ever tell us stories of their workers getting hurt in the line of duty, like we hear of military much more often?













Athar Minallah [now Justice IHC] in following interview also mentioned media cameramen and journalist who are hurt in the line of duty:




Hence any profession who are out under the elements making effort to sustain their families or for country are on jihad.

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One thing is jehad other jehad ul qatal. If ur foj is not ready for jehad ul qatal .. how will the nation underneath it do their day to day jehad.
Noones undermining the sacrifices of civilian workers here but a person who is in a border fortress in say FATA is your first line of defence. If some Mal intent people sneak through they would be causing havoc for all those civilians in first place.
We saw that in quetta and peshawar how people and their work got affected to a point that peshawar airport was closed down and the provincial capital moved to abbottabad.
 
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Chaps,

Respectfully please keep your anti army bullshit away from this thread. You know I support PTI but please respect the jawans where it is due.

That's all I ask.
Infantry needs new gear. From assault rifles, hand guns, machine guns, sniper rifles, red dot sights, thermal vision, night vision, helmets and BP vests.
 

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They could have been part of EDA (Excess Defense Articles) through our MNNA status.

Sometimes you take what is available.
US military don’t used this color. May be before 2003, but LBV aren’t issued anymore. Load is mounted to plate carrier or the plate vest.
 
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US military don’t used this color. May be before 2003, but LBV aren’t issued anymore. Load is mounted to plate carrier or the plate vest.
EDA covers a wide array of DoD excess articles. These excess articles could have come from US Army MP stocks or from the other services including USCG who have no need for camouflage LBVs onboard ships and hardened facilities.

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