• Friday, November 22, 2019

Egyptian negotiations during the PAS2019 exhibition to contract JF17 fighter jets with the transfer

Discussion in 'Arab Defence Forum' started by The SC, Jun 30, 2019.

  1. Max Pain

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    ok that ends this debate then.

    Hopefully you wont get this jet as it does not fulfill your requirements.
    you got better options? go for em.
     
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  2. The SC

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    That is true.. but maybe the training started much earlier.. because Pakistan had to face the Indian Mig-21s..Like in 1971..
     
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    JFT is built on basis of plug n play, if PAF think they need new engine then JFT can be equipped with variety of engines available in the market.

    If Egypt wants more capable JFT then they have to pay more for high quality airframe, engine and avionics, Egypt can negotiate deal with French Rafael's avionics and engine if they want commonality in systems.
     
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  4. Philip the Arab

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    I doubt that would be possible, or it would be very unlikely France would be willing to do this.
     
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    They might sell the SNECMA engine used on the Mirage 2000, Pakistan was negotiating for it at one time..
     
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    Avionics would be close to impossible though.
     
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    Why not, If Egypt could buy the whole Rafale why not some French avionics.. in any case Chinese avionics are very good now..and that according to US military experts..

    Actually if the deal goes through, Egypt will make its own version with some modifications to suite its needs..And if Egypt manufactures the JF-17 III the cost will drop to about $20 million.. So it will be a very good deal for Egypt..
     
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  8. Legio XI The Ironclads

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    Mossad has a very strict policy not to recruit or use agents that are Jewish in foreign countries. Their rationale is if the agent is caught, they don't implicate local Jewish communities and cause a back lash against them inadvertently. If there is anything mossad doesn't know about jf-17, they'll find out 5 minutes after the first one lands in Nigeria.
     
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    nothing should be taken from French without TOT
     
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    France was ready to sale avionics and weapons package to Pakistan in initial stages of JFT development but they pulled out due to Indian pressure, that is not issue with Egypt also French are ready to sale engines if Pakistan wants it.

    Rafale engine is also available as UK have also offered EJ-200 of EFT.
     
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    We faced Mig21 in 1965...
    Destroyed all 8 in IAF inventory on ground at Pathankot, Sep 7th, 1965.

    We first flew Mig21s in Syria early 1970. My dad was deputed there. The less said about Syrian Arab AF the better...
     
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    Open the border to Gaza and then ask me about my sources.
     
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    jf-17 with EJ-200 and AESA could be a great deal...
     
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    That is what is great about JFT that is can be customized as per customer requirements.
     
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    Thank you for comparing Light class (JF17) with Medium and Heavy class. Please elaborate use of light class and medium and heavy class?