Love it. We knew they were going to work something out with the French but 30 is a very off number. We need details on if that included the option for 12 which really makes this an 18 aircraft deal which explains the pretty decent deal since those 12 were bought for the original price is my guess. And you're right, it seems that all the Mubarak decades created great negotiators in the EGY military if you look at the MASSIVE amount of armament they're buying in just the past 8 years. Hard to believe that we're the 3rd largest importer of military equipment around the world with all these mega shmega deals worth hundreds of billions of dollars and Euros.Good negotiating by Egypt if true!
According to Reuters, they certainly are still on.Is Typhoon deal off?
IMO ... it'd be better to use the Typhoon money to build the Rafale fleet into an even larger force.I say still get they Typhoons and who gives a flying rigging pile of steaming fresh cow patty what the expert PDF members think and keep repeating the same BS about logistical nightmares and all that frankly idiotic mumbo jumbo jively blibley.
That would be quite something, wouldn't it. I doubt les Francais would approve the integration of other weapons' from another manufacturer and lose out on selling theirs, that's usually the @#$#$% problem.I hope Egypt contracts UAE to install weapons if the French allow it.
What I really wish for is a non MTCR cruise missile for deepstrike that is a joint program between all major Arab countries.
TRANCHE 4, my friend. CAPTOR-E AESA radar AND, I will look into it some more because according to my post with the CG image of the radar and its connections to the canards of the EFT, they might be installing L-band AESA radars in the leading edge of the little wing so that when the mechanically steered CAPTOR turns left and is within line of sight of communicating with this supposed, unknown item in the canard, I'm only assuming that it increases the CAPTOR's azimuth to that one direction and the other. In other words, the radar turns maximum to one side, L-band AESA on the leading edge of the canard picks it up and increased the azimuth of spread of the radar even more to that the pilot can see even further behind him on each side with the help of this new thing that is going on. Or, I could be wrong about the whole thing but I don't think so, As soon as I have some time, I'll find out and let you folks know.
Well, I see your point and I hate to admit this, but most Egyptians agree with you that the Rafales are better to have at least 80 of them but look at this contract for example. The first aircraft is due to arrive in 3 years!!!! How long do you suppose between the years of negotiating with the French and Dassault to come to an agreement and then wait 5 years for all the aircraft to be delivered and probably without the Meteor? I know my bro @The SC will disagree and say they are a already part of the first order but the French are a bit sneaky and say they need their government approval for the best A2A missiles available to be installed on 54 EAF aircraft that, with all the Russian weapons we're supposed to get probably neutralizes 3/4 of Israel's air force inventory and the Jews are not happy about that and have been strongly lobbying France against providing that missile to Egypt. (PS, when I refer to them as "Jews" it's not out of any form of disrespect or anything like that. When we were fighting them and peace dealing with them, everyone always referred to them as the Jews and sometimes Israelis. Nothing derogatory whatsoever.IMO ... it'd be better to use the Typhoon money to build the Rafale fleet into an even larger force.
Here's what I would do and I could be right but most likely wrong lol. Keep making the Rafales the priority, but get on the Tyhoon band wagon. Order them with all that radar stuff I listed and the awesome decoy you pointed out which I do believe the Rafale and some other Russian & American jet deploy similar decoys (I believe the F/A-18 Growler has a similar decoy) which I think shakes the PKZ to the core, especially on the AIM-120's but the AIM-9X has super anti jamming and decoy separation technology in it. It is probably the BEST short range missile out there closely followed by the MICA ER and the MICA NG (next generation will be as good if not better Thant the AIM-9X) Naturally with all this stuff, of course the Americans don't want to give us any of their powerful missiles, it will make us a regional powerhouse possibly leveling Israel even if we offered them (the Americans) our daughters, our camels and flying carpets.I get the rationale of maintaining diverse supply lines, but having more of a certain fighter could give you a deep support chain in terms of spare parts, engines, weapons, etc. You would also build a stockpile of reserves for attrition, losses, downtime, etc.
Those are known news Bro..According to Vergennes on Defenceh*b
"The contract also includes the upgrade of the Rafale currently in service within the EAF to the F3R standard."
I asked him for a source and he said this
"Someone very close to Dassault (in fact working for it) on a French forum. Egypt planned for a long time to upgrade them to the F3R standard anyway."
@The SC @Gomig-21
In case you guys didn't see this post.