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The PM of Ethiopia will know the answer to that question not me :lol:.
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And I'll say it again, I didn't say the Nile belongs to Ethiopia:undecided:... but most of the Nile's water in Egypt is from Ethiopian land.

This is a project started to benefit us and surrounding countries, not to harm Egypt in any way..
I do understand that.. but by saying that the source of Nile is in Ethiopia..does not give the right to Ethiopia to alter it.. eventhough we both understand that a big part of it is inside Ethiopia..the Nile river as such is still considered international..Do you agree?
 

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I do understand that.. but by saying that the source of Nile is in Ethiopia..does not give the right to Ethiopia to alter it.. eventhough we both understand that a big part of it is inside Ethiopia..the Nile river as such is still considered international..Do you agree?
Yes I agree it is an international river.
 

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Too bad EDX 2018 is only 2 days. Probably good since it's the first military exhibition held in Egypt since.....ever? And what a shame that is. It really pisses me off that our military took this long to get onto the world stage as far as these shows and exhibitions etc. If you think of Egypt's location in the ME & MENA area, we are center stage. Stand in Cairo and look north and the potential. Look east and see the potential. West and South just as much and it took until 2018 to get in on this action? I guess better late than never.

You'll have to take our word for it:cheers:,
That wouldn't even fly with the best of friends.

I'm sure if this was the other way around you wouldn't care one tiny bit.
Terrible presumption on your part. Quite the contrary since diplomacy is our strongest suit, and we practice it and exhaust it before anything else and that's exactly what we've been doing with Ethiopia regarding this very serous matter.

Sorry but the Nile doesn't just belong to you,
When did we ever claim such a thing?

80% of the waters come from us,
So that means screw all upstream countries?

we are not going to abide by some outdated treaty that didn't even concern us.
Neither of those treaties were mentioned once in all 18 meetings that took place. Did you know that? Only the newscasters are bringing that up as they report the issue.

The way Egypt uses the Nile too is not exactly very helpful.
Says who? Who the heck has ever actually studied or came up with any legitimate information that indicates Egypt uses the Nile in an "unhelpful" way. All the reports of "wasting" water is made up because that is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to do. First, you simply cannot over-irrigate any crops of any kind anywhere in the world. All other usage of the water is the average use that any other country does with it's water and in many agricultural areas that are being developed further and further from the banks of the Nile where canals are not reaching are using wells to acquire water. So that whole, false notion that Egyptians waste the water is just another concocted story to make us appear to be spoiled and abusive and non-deserving etc. Couldn't be further from the truth as I just explained.

You could empty the Aswan high dam while the GERD is filling and not deal with water shortages, no evaporation in your lake and restore farming land.
Why should we go through all of that? Who's disturbing the flow, us or you? Do you realize how large of an operation that is? Will Ethiopia volunteer to pay for that huge endeavor?

Compensate lost electricity with solar or wind energy.
Again, besides the fact that solar projects are being created in Egypt up in an eye-popping manner, that's besides the point. We shouldn't have to make such drastic adjustments just because you're going to significantly alter the flow of such a precious, natural resource.

As a Sudanese user on a different forum said in response to Egyptian rice farmers moaning about the ban, 'who farms rice in a desert, they need to behave like the desert nation they are':coffee:.
That's about as bigoted of a statement as one can possibly make. That Sudanese guy -- who BTW, is from a much larger desert nation than Egypt -- should take his own advice. What a racist comment.

You are ignoring all the benefits of it, harming Egypt is the last thing on our mind.
If that was the case, why are you refusing to share the French study? What is in it that you don't want us to see? If there won't be any harm to Egypt like you say, why hide that? Why not agree to an international arbitration that we specifically said would agree to whatever result they come up with. So we've made it official that we would keep our word yet you've done nothing of the sort. I'm sorry, Wedi, but this is not an even playing field that Ethiopia is playing in and that's a dangerous game because of the possible effects on our country and people. That's not something that anyone would take lightly.

Think of it this way; if this was Israel, this would be taken as an existential threat and that dam would've been reduced to rubble 4 years ago. Instead of behaving like that, we've met with you 18 times to try and solve this and we're willing to solve it because we don't claim the Nile is all ours and we want to see Ethiopia benefit from the same thing we have for almost 60 years. But you folks are not receptive enough and that's on you, not us.

@Taygibay , first time we've seen ECM manpacks with Egyptian EOD teams. On-foot mobile jamming while diffusing IEDs.



 

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Guilty ISIS camels! :lol: Hey, now they can have a better life and not be in danger of getting blown to pieces.

Camels used for smuggling, loaded with ammo, medical materials, solar cells, communication devices and explosive belts in Central Sinai near mount Al-Halal.





More recent precision cretin crunching by the EAF on the western border.





 

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So that means screw all upstream countries?
I'm just saying the Nile is ours just as much as it is yours. Besides it was screw all downstream countries a few decades ago.
Why should we go through all of that? Who's disturbing the flow, us or you? Do you realize how large of an operation that is? Will Ethiopia volunteer to pay for that huge endeavor?
Again, besides the fact that solar projects are being created in Egypt up in an eye-popping manner, that's besides the point. We shouldn't have to make such drastic adjustments just because you're going to significantly alter the flow of such a precious, natural resource.
It's just emptying the Aswan dam until the GERD has filled up. We are not disturbing the flow or attempting to affect Egypt in the process, we are utilising our natural resources, as a landlocked country there is only so much we can do. If we need to develop, we need to develop.

If that was the case, why are you refusing to share the French study? What is in it that you don't want us to see? If there won't be any harm to Egypt like you say, why hide that? Why not agree to an international arbitration that we specifically said would agree to whatever result they come up with. So we've made it official that we would keep our word yet you've done nothing of the sort. I'm sorry, Wedi, but this is not an even playing field that Ethiopia is playing in and that's a dangerous game because of the possible effects on our country and people. That's not something that anyone would take lightly.

Think of it this way; if this was Israel, this would be taken as an existential threat and that dam would've been reduced to rubble 4 years ago. Instead of behaving like that, we've met with you 18 times to try and solve this and we're willing to solve it because we don't claim the Nile is all ours and we want to see Ethiopia benefit from the same thing we have for almost 60 years. But you folks are not receptive enough and that's on you, not us.
I cannot answer most things about the politics that goes on Ethiopia but going by these meetings it has actually been Egypt that has been the party not agreeing, yet saying they are the most flexible.

The best thing these 3 countries could do is to form an economic alliance or a customs union as this dam has benefits for all countries that surround it and they should bring the advantages into the spotlight.
 

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The Egyptian Navy will receive second generation RIM-116 Block-2 short-range air defense missiles



http://www.defenseworld.net/news/22...ile_Round_Pack_to_US_Navy__Qatar#.WvYRX5cVvx-
Apparently we are already current operators of the RAM.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-116_Rolling_Airframe_Missile

I can see that system easily placed on particularly 2 large ships, but I don't think this is for them. More like for the US-made ships in the Egyptian navy. I'm also wondering why it's taking so long to get the mistrals equipped with defensive weapons. This should be a priority.
 

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Apparently we are already current operators of the RAM.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-116_Rolling_Airframe_Missile

I can see that system easily placed on particularly 2 large ships, but I don't think this is for them. More like for the US-made ships in the Egyptian navy. I'm also wondering why it's taking so long to get the mistrals equipped with defensive weapons. This should be a priority.
I think it is new, because it is block 2.. the Ambassadors are already equipped with blk 1.. maybe these are for the Perry upgrade!?
The mistral will apparently get Russian equivalents.. I've heard the deal to equip them went through.. but it is very complicated due to integrations with French components and skipping some components the Russians had built for the Mistral but Egypt doesn't need..

Ministers of Defense and Foreign affairs leave for Russia to attend the "2 + 2" meetings !?
Mistral equipment will likely be on the Agenda..
 
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Interior ministry opens first training institute for special forces (SWAT teams) in Africa..




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EDX 2018 is only 2 days
Make it 3 days.. the 3rd, 4th and 5th..
 
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EDX 2018 is only 2 days
Make it 3 days.. the 3rd, 4th and 5th..
Thanks, buddy. Math was never my strong suit. :lol:

That new special ops institute looks excellent. Combine that with the new Mohammad Naguib mega military training base and all the others indicates they've put a big emphasis on training and networking the seriousness of the training aspect. Good to see.

Also the latest clip from the army spokesman for Sinai ops looks like much of their efforts have paid off and they've put a huge dent in the Sinai terror network. The clearing out of EID and booby trapping has been exceptional. There hasn't been enough said about that and unfortunately the only news that circulates any media is either critical of something mundane or just simply a constant focus on anything that could possibly be a negative effect. It's unbelievable the amount of contrarianism that is out there. There's not one single attempt at focusing on anything positive that has been accomplished. I find that unreal. And the success they've had on the drug seizures and trafficking is remarkable. The other side of the supply and funding network that they've practically destroyed is barely mentioned by any outside media. All we want is an even playing field but that seems to be too much to ask for. Really sad.
 

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Thanks, buddy. Math was never my strong suit. :lol:

That new special ops institute looks excellent. Combine that with the new Mohammad Naguib mega military training base and all the others indicates they've put a big emphasis on training and networking the seriousness of the training aspect. Good to see.

Also the latest clip from the army spokesman for Sinai ops looks like much of their efforts have paid off and they've put a huge dent in the Sinai terror network. The clearing out of EID and booby trapping has been exceptional. There hasn't been enough said about that and unfortunately the only news that circulates any media is either critical of something mundane or just simply a constant focus on anything that could possibly be a negative effect. It's unbelievable the amount of contrarianism that is out there. There's not one single attempt at focusing on anything positive that has been accomplished. I find that unreal. And the success they've had on the drug seizures and trafficking is remarkable. The other side of the supply and funding network that they've practically destroyed is barely mentioned by any outside media. All we want is an even playing field but that seems to be too much to ask for. Really sad.
It is the results that matter most to whom it may concern.. Egypt in this instance..These achievements will open the doors to massive investments and important projects in the Sinai peninsula.. and that is a big positive on its own..
 
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Has this been posted before?

Egyptian protesters welcome Army helicopter with laser pens (2013)

It was nice that it turned out to be a show of support by the military for the people who were protesting, but many were wondering what one of the most lethal and fully armed attack helicopters in the world was doing there in the first place, lol. Thank God it was a friendly and supportive event. There were a lot of Egyptian Apaches (and other types) appearances during this historic event and we got to see a lot of things we never saw before. One of them was a bit of fancy flying at a beach in Alexandria, also in 2013. While it might be nice to see such a thing up close, not sure I wouldn't be annoyed by something blowing a bunch of sand in my face lol.

http://www.military.com/video/aircraft/helicopters/apache-blows-away-beachgoers/2538384751001

That's happened a long time ago, way back in the crazy days of 2013. I don't even know where they got all those laser pens from. The Apache looks pretty cool, there.
That was A LOT of lasers, lol. Definitely looked cool but man, how dangerous is that for the pilot? In the US (and I'm sure in many countries) it's a felony to point a laser at any aircraft, let alone a military one and here they covered the entire chopper with green light lol!















 
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