What's new

Egypt to boost Rafale order by 100 Aircraft as it’s Su-35 failed to withstand Rafale’s SPECTRA electronic attacks

HammerHead081

FULL MEMBER
Mar 12, 2019
729
-3
1,078
Country
Pakistan
Location
Norway
Being able to buy new expensive toys doesn't mean you can use them better. Yes we have history to proof. We have beaten better quality planes with lower quality planes over and over again. We have great history where we have pilots like MM Alam and several others. So please if you don't know things then better go and learn.
Excuse me? MM Alam is a terrible example. During that war, Pakistan had slightly advanced if not equal jet to India. It also was the era of dogfight which is almost extinct now due to the prevalence of BVR, AESA and stealth.
Would request again to stop deluding yourself by these feel good stories. You cannot beat a lambo sitting in a mehran, a product has limitations.
 

Zarvan

ELITE MEMBER
Apr 28, 2011
52,547
85
60,722
Country
Pakistan
Location
Pakistan
Excuse me? MM Alam is a terrible example. During that war, Pakistan had slightly advanced if not equal jet to India. It also was the era of dogfight which is almost extinct now due to the prevalence of BVR, AESA and stealth.
Would request again to stop deluding yourself by these feel good stories. You cannot beat a lambo sitting in a mehran, a product has limitations.
The jets he shot down were far superior then his own jet. He shot down hunters who are far superior. You can buy expensive toys if you money that doesn't mean you can operate and utilize them well specially in war. German has 200 EF only 4 are in flying condition. If today Germany goes to war trust they would be all out in few hours. I can give you several other examples
 

siegecrossbow

PDF THINK TANK: ANALYST
Aug 19, 2010
6,402
6
11,459
Country
China
Location
United States

Capture.PNG


Sounds like this website would give totally bias free and accurate assessments of Russian military equipment.
 

sha ah

FULL MEMBER
Mar 2, 2018
1,391
0
2,043
Country
Iran, Islamic Republic Of
Location
Canada
Why is everyone ignoring the fact that one Rafale fighter costs $120 million, whereas a SU-35 is closer to $80 million ? Realistically upgrading the SU-35 platform with less than $10 million a unit will make it more than a match for the Rafale.
 

The SC

ELITE MEMBER
Feb 13, 2012
23,294
19
25,297
Country
Canada
Location
Canada
The author is talking about BARS radar while the SU-35 has IRBIS radar with LPI .. whitch makes the article still much less credible..
 

The Accountant

PDF THINK TANK: ANALYST
Aug 13, 2016
7,815
19
9,555
Country
Pakistan
Location
Pakistan
Why is everyone ignoring the fact that one Rafale fighter costs $120 million, whereas a SU-35 is closer to $80 million ? Realistically upgrading the SU-35 platform with less than $10 million a unit will make it more than a match for the Rafale.
Not true. The life cycle cost of su platform is higher than rafael. For example engine life su is much lower than rafael.

Su is technologically inferrior there is no doubt about it ... But it does not mean that rafael will always come on top of su35 and no other aircraft can take over on rafael ...
 

CIA Mole

FULL MEMBER
May 1, 2019
1,770
-2
1,536
Country
United States
Location
Pakistan
I’m confused, for which enemy air force does Eygpt need to upgrade to rafale from su35?
 

sha ah

FULL MEMBER
Mar 2, 2018
1,391
0
2,043
Country
Iran, Islamic Republic Of
Location
Canada
Egypt / UAE used Rafales to hit Watiya airbase as a warning to Turkey. They destroyed several Turkish air defense units. They must have either flown low or used their electronic warfare suite to hit those positions.
 

ARMalik

SENIOR MEMBER
Dec 7, 2017
4,499
5
8,259
Country
Australia
Location
Australia
Oh God, not this bulls.hit again. First it was super duper indian Mig-21. Then it was Super, superhuman Indian MKIs, and now this Demi God Rafales. There is a reason why Indians are called the Arse of the world. :lol:
 

MMM-E

SENIOR MEMBER
Jul 6, 2017
7,520
-14
7,496
Country
Turkey
Location
Germany
Egypt / UAE used Rafales to hit Watiya airbase as a warning to Turkey. They destroyed several Turkish air defense units. They must have either flown low or used their electronic warfare suite to hit those positions.

to hit old HAWK-XXI medium range air defense unit in Al Watiya airbase is not difficult

Turkish UCAVs destroyed Russian made PANTSIR air defense units in Al Watiya airbase
and GNA captured Al Watiya airbase from LNA



Turkey bought S400 Air Defense Systems to turn Rafales into crap of metal

btw if Rafale has SPECTRA EW suite , Turkish F-16s have SPEWS-II EW suite
also Turkish KORAL and REDET Radar Electronic Warfare Systems to jam hostile Radars from 150-200 km away
also Turkish HAVASOJ airborne stand off jammer is on the way to jam hostile Radars from 400 km away


Turkey is one of top 5 countries in the world for electronic warfare technology
 

Sinnerman108

SENIOR MEMBER
Jul 20, 2009
7,769
-6
8,193
Country
Pakistan
Location
Saudi Arabia
That’s interest regarding Spectra jamming SUs.

Now this begs the question about the rest of Russian and Chinese Air Fleet.

@Windjammer @Raider 21

How well would JF-17 Suites be able to handle this considering we’re taking off the shelf Chinese equipment.
Conversely,
It seems anyone can Jam the SU.

We know the Wizards did a good job,.
 

White and Green with M/S

SENIOR MEMBER
Oct 29, 2020
3,810
-2
2,003
Country
Pakistan
Location
United States
Surely iron brother can make a special deal for us like USA makes for Israel.
not until 6th Chinese jet will be inducted to PLAAF, and does USA export F22 to Israel?? not every Chinese Military tech is sale for Pakistan lol, if we will get Chinese stealth fighter than it would be J35/J31 not J20
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Total: 1, Members: 0, Guests: 1)


Top Bottom