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Dhaka has been ranked as the second least liveable city among the world's 140 cities in this year's Global Liveability Index released by the Economist Intelligence Unit. Only Damascus in war-torn Syria lags behind Dhaka, which was placed in second position last year too and at the bottom the year before.
It means Dhaka is competing with a war torn city to snatch the “honour” of being the worst liveable city.

Also READ: Dhaka 2nd least liveable city in the world

This is not the first time Dhaka earned this ranking—it did so last year and Dhaka has been hanging around in the EIU’s 10 worst liveable city ranking for several years now.
But it does not need EIU’s ranking for anybody to know that Dhaka has been rotting, stinking and becoming more terrible to live in every year.
Is it because we have too much population? Is it because we have a lot of resource constraints? Or is it because we Bengalees do not know how to keep our living space nice?

If we look at Kolkata, the capital of West Bengal and perhaps the best case for comparison, we can clearly see it is neither population, nor resource constraint or cultural habits that contributed to the diminishing liveability of Dhaka.
Ask any old timers of Dhaka—they would sigh and say that Dhaka used to be a beautiful green city even back in the seventies. Back then -- Kolkata used to be a city of garbage dumped anywhere on the streets; there used to be frequent load shedding and traffic condition was horrendous. The air of Kolkata used to reek of garbage.

But look how the table has turned. According to a report based on a survey by a Non-government organisation published in the Times of India in June last year, Kolkata ranks the best among 21 selected Indian cities.
Again you don’t even need a survey to compare Kolkata to Dhaka in terms of liveability.
Kolkata has a population of nearly 14 million people (metro population is 4.5 million) while Dhaka has 14 million (with metro population of 7 million). However the spread of urban Dhaka is way smaller than that of Kolkata at present.

Kolkata has one basic advantage over Dhaka—it has many more times the number and length of streets which we do not have. The bustling city also has a metro rail service (ours will be coming a few years later) which carries a bulk number of passengers.
If you have been to Kolkata, you will not find garbage on any of the streets—which tend to sparkle with adequate lighting after the evening. Many of the streets do have potholes in Kolkata—but its nothing compared to Dhaka’s broken streets which are also often smeared with filth, stench and are often dark at night.
Kolkata has 48 government hospitals; whereas Dhaka has around 23 (17 of which are specialised). Many Bangladeshis go to Kolkata for better treatment.
The Kolkata government also runs 14 universities—compared to just four (including Shere Bangla Krishi Biswabidalay and Bangabandhu Medical University) in Dhaka.
The number of taxicabs in Kolkata is no less than 50,000 according to Indian press—whereas this number would be less than 1000 in Dhaka.
Kolkata is no longer a city of jams— Dhaka is. Kolkata now has dozens of flyovers to tackle this situation. On top of it, Kolkata has a complex “One Way” street rule enforcement—many streets remain One Way in the morning in one direction, and in the evening in opposite direction. The concept of One Way street is unheard of in Dhaka.
The biggest visible thing in Kolkata is the empowered policemen on the streets. Nobody fights with the traffic police and commuters rarely disobey traffic rules. The result is visible—you will seldom see a public bus driving like a maniac in all directions in Kolkata. No bus will stop in the middle of the road while crossing a signal. No bus will try to crush other vehicles.
It’s also noteworthy to mention that Kolkata is comparatively safe for women. You can see women passengers returning home on buses even after midnight.
And then they kept their famous Gorer Math neat, clean and green. Compared to that, how did we keep our Suhrawardi Udyan?
Recreation, street food, night life, large shopping malls, apartment lifestyle; on any account, Kolkata is ahead of Dhaka. And yet Kolkata has the same number of Bengalees we have and we share many common cultural traits.

So why do we have a city that appears to be dying? The answer is simple: if you compare the sculptures in the public places in Kolkata with those in Dhaka—you will see that we did not deploy real artists to build our sculptures. We just awarded the job to some people so that they can make some money. This goes with every aspect of the city. People who do not love our city, plan and run our city. The policymakers are not concerned about the city because they must have disconnected themselves from the services this city provides. For health care they fly to Singapore. For their children’s education, they rely on western countries. And when they buy homes, they buy it in Canada or Australia. Otherwise how can they leave this beautiful city rotting?

http://www.thedailystar.net/op-ed/dhaka-vs-kolkata-131794
 

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I don't know much about Kolkata but I'm sure it is a nice city.

But about Dhaka.....it has a lot of potential. The city is only getting built in a modernized way. Once Infrastructures are completed and metro rail is built traffic jam situation will improve a lot.

Dhaka has a lot of private universities. And private hospitals. I'd like to see the comparisons with Kolkata in that field. Obviously Dhaka has to improve a lot. I'd admit that I'm glad because I don't have to face traffic jam of anything similar of magnitude of Dhaka. However by the time I return permanently I hope things will be improved. Also I heard a lot of things will be moved towards less crowdy areas of Dhaka like Purbachal. Dhaka has to improve. It is estimated to be the busiest city in the whole world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proje...of_the_101_largest_cities_in_the_21st_century

And when they buy homes, they buy it in Canada or Australia.

Just this one point. I agree with most of the OP.

Home price and land price in Dhaka has been constantly on the rise for decades. And showing no sign of going down.
 

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Try buying houses in Singapore.
HDBs(government made flats) cost around SG$400 000.
Condominiums cost SG$800k-1.2mil
And bungalow cost above SG$20mil
 

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BD has too small area for its 165 million people. It is hard to imagine how people will live in BD by 2050.
 

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The positive thing about Kolkata is the food very very cheap and easily affordable
 

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BD has too small area for its 165 million people. It is hard to imagine how people will live in BD by 2050.
How people will live in west bengal, bihar,uttar pradesh,kerala in 2050? Their population density is similar to Bangladesh.Or how people will live in part of india which is not desert,mountain,jungle or himalayas? These useless place is diluding indian population density,otherwise it's population density will not be very different than Bangladesh.
 

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BD has too small area for its 165 million people. It is hard to imagine how people will live in BD by 2050.
Bangladesh has the lowest fertility rate in South Asia & West Bengal has the lowest fertility rate in India.. Bangladesh's fertility rate is already below replacement level.. That means it's population peaks many years before 2050 and then decrease..
 

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BD has too small area for its 165 million people. It is hard to imagine how people will live in BD by 2050.
BD's population will peak at somewhere near 180 million. Then it is projected to go down. Don't think it will be that much of a problem than it is now.
 

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How people will live in west bengal, bihar,uttar pradesh,kerala in 2050? Their population density is similar to Bangladesh.Or how people will live in part of india which is not desert,mountain,jungle or himalayas? These useless place is diluding indian population density,otherwise it's population density will not be very different than Bangladesh.

1250 people live in sq km in BD while 440 people live in the same area in India.

Bangladesh has the lowest fertility rate in South Asia & West Bengal has the lowest fertility rate in India.. Bangladesh's fertility rate is already below replacement level.. That means it's population peaks many years before 2050 and then decrease..

Both India and BD have the same fertility rates.

BD's population will peak at somewhere near 180 million. Then it is projected to go down. Don't think it will be that much of a problem than it is now.

BD is projected to cross 200 million by 2050, and the BD population might stabilize around 2070.
 

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1250 people live in sq km in BD while 440 people live in the same area in India.
Do you sincerely believe 440 people lives in each sq. Km in Thar desert of Rajastan? Or himalayan areas or north eastern jungle or deccan platue? These are the areas not suitable for agriculture or human settlement.So very few people lives there.Most of the Indian live states like Uttar pradesh,bihar,west bengal or coastal belt of tamilnadu,kerala,maharastra.These areas have population density similar to Bangladesh.440 people is the average of both suitable and unsuitable areas of human habitation in India.

Entire Bangladesh is suitable for human settlement but this is not the case with India.
 

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1250 people live in sq km in BD while 440 people live in the same area in India.

Apples and Oranges.

The ratio of arable and habitable land in Bangladesh is much higher than India. India's ratio of uninhabitable areas (such as deserts, mountains and high altitude remote areas) are much higher than Bangladesh. The actual comparison should be about population density in habitable areas, not simply population divided by sq. km.

However I'm really not in the mood to measure phallus's right now. India is a much bigger country, no doubt about that.

Both India and BD have the same fertility rates.

About the same....

BD is projected to cross 200 million by 2050, and the BD population might stabilize around 2070.

I'd like to see your source and how credible it is. 2050? 2070?? Let's look at a few things on why your predictions are pie-in-the-sky (slowdown will happen a whole lot sooner - maybe in a couple of decades by 2035)......

  • The days of families having five kids are not going to return.
  • People cannot afford to have any more kids - too expensive these days.
  • Women control their own fertility because they are working instead of sitting at home, being impregnated with impunity and having babies. Bangladesh has a higher percentage of women working than anyplace in South Asia and they all have unfettered access to birth control.
  • Rate of educated women are much higher now, which will bring fertility down even lower. Same thing in WB India.
As such - population increases in Bangladesh are relegated to history. This generation is having, say - about two kids on average and this is called a replacement rate. Next generation the fertility rate is going to drop even lower.

Although I get why _some_ quarters in India feel dissing Bangladesh as a poverty-ridden overpopulated hell-hole would be entertaining, reality and facts say otherwise.

The percentage of agricultural land in Bangladesh is 70%, compared to 60% in India, Pakistan is even lower at 47%.

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/AG.LND.AGRI.ZS
 
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Apples and Oranges.

The ratio of arable and habitable land in Bangladesh is much higher than India. India's ratio of uninhabitable areas (such as deserts, mountains and high altitude remote areas) are much higher than Bangladesh. The actual comparison should be about population density in habitable areas, not simply population divided by sq. km.

However I'm really not in the mood to measure phallus's right now. India is a much bigger country, no doubt about that.



About the same....



I'd like to see your source and how credible it is. 2050? 2070?? Let's look at a few things on why your predictions are pie-in-the-sky (slowdown will happen a whole lot sooner - maybe in a couple of decades by 2035)......

  • The days of families having five kids are not going to return.
  • People cannot afford to have any more kids - too expensive these days.
  • Women control their own fertility because they are working instead of sitting at home, being impregnated with impunity and having babies. Bangladesh has a higher percentage of women working than anyplace in South Asia and they all have unfettered access to birth control.
  • Rate of educated women are much higher now, which will bring fertility down even lower. Same thing in WB India.
As such - population increases in Bangladesh are relegated to history. This generation is having, say - about two kids on average and this is called a replacement rate. Next generation the fertility rate is going to drop even lower.

Although I get why _some_ quarters in India feel dissing Bangladesh as a poverty-ridden overpopulated hell-hole would be entertaining, reality and facts say otherwise.

In terms of arable land both have same proposition of arable land, India has 50% of land arable while BD 55%. Population density by arable land...BD 1,946 per sq km while India 753 per sq km.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...lation_density_based_on_food_growing_capacity
 

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In terms of arable land both have same proposition of arable land, India has 50% of land arable while BD 55%. Population density by arable land...BD 1,946 per sq km while India 753 per sq km.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...lation_density_based_on_food_growing_capacity

Your stats are from Wiki which is from 2005.

See my stats from World Bank for 2013 (latest available) above in my previous reply.

I don't get why these Phallus measuring BS threads get started by somebody's personal itch.

These are pointless OT conversations as is this pointless thread measuring two different cities.

Revived from a year-old stale news article.

@waz Bhai can we close this one? Thanks.
 

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Home price and land price in Dhaka has been constantly on the rise for decades. And showing no sign of going down.
high land prices in cities is actually due to mismanagement, when cities grow horizontally instead of vertically
 

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