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DHA case: Which country’s army operates housing schemes?, asks CJP

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  1. Men in Green

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    At least some one has guts to ask the army. Thats what i have been saying why our army is doing business. Shopping malls , housing schemes and many more. Why they are even allowed.
     
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    This buissness thing has grown above and beyond simple welfare of soldiers...

    It shud be checked and un necessary buissness shud be privatized
     
  3. Umair Nawaz

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    question is, why is yr supreme court to this day had failed to prosecute even a single indian citizen named in panama papers scandal?
    Why has yr Supreme Court rejected investigating Rafael deal in which Rajiv Ambani, the second richest man of the world is involved?
    Why has yr supreme court stayed away from doing justice on Babri Masjid saga?
    Why is that when Supreme Court of Pakistan was announcing the verdict of our ex ruling Sharif family's panama papers corruption case yr supreme court was hearing a insignificant case like Should Hybrid fuel cars be running on the streets of New Dehli or not?

    Why does it seems that yr country is fast becoming the heaven of Oligarchy?
     
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    they are retired army men.
     
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    Again, the subject matter of the thread.
     
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  6. Umair Nawaz

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    right back at u sunil!!! this is a Pakistan defence forum....and our courts r free and powerful today as in any civilized society that should be, but u arnt in that position so its better for u to take inspiration and ask yr judiciary as to why it is scared to prosecute the Oligarchs?
     
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  7. Windjammer

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    Ha ha ha....sure just a few, the rest are fit to pass audition for snow white. :lol:

    Indian army engulfed by brand new land scam
    -Indian army appears to be locked in never ending land scams


    https://shiningindia1.blogspot.com/2013/05/indian-army-engulfed-by-brand-new-land.html
     
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  8. SunilM

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    So that you have more info on the subject....

    How Pakistan's Military Monopolised State Resources For Personal Use
    The 2017 edition of Ayesha Siddiqa's 'Military Inc.: Inside Pakistan’s Military Economy' discusses how military capital being used for personal benefits is now a permanent feature in Pakistan.

    In 2007, Ayesha Siddiqa touched a raw nerve by publishing Military Inc.: Inside Pakistan’s Military Economy. Then Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf branded her a traitor, blocked the book launch, threatened to try her for treason and hounded her out of the country. Her crime was documenting the Pakistani military’s business involvement (“Milbus”) at the cost of the public economy. The 2017 edition of Military Inc. adds details from the post-Musharraf era and concludes that Milbus has become a permanent feature now. There is also widespread public and media acceptance of Milbus through the Pakistan military’s successful efforts in brushing up its image as the most trustworthy security guardian even under civilian rule. According to her, “In post 2007 Pakistan, military power is more intensely entrenched”

    What is “Milibus”?

    Siddiqa defines Milbus as military capital used for the personal benefit of the military fraternity. Over a period of time a segment of civilians has also benefited. These funds are neither recorded nor are they part of the defence budget. These activities are controlled by retired or serving military officers or under their patronage. Milbus evades regular accountability procedures for “the gratification of military personnel and their cronies”.

    Milbus activities and dividends are justified as quid pro quo for their security work to the state. They are also justified as welfare measures provided to the armed forces. However “the rewards are limited to the officer cadre rather than being evenly distributed among the rank and file”. Even a noted columnist like Khaled Ahmad, who disagrees with much of the Pakistani military’s stance, told her that Pakistan should pay the price “for what we believe in. There is a paradox triggered by our nationalism which allows the military to monopolize the state’s resources.”

    The military’s involvement in politics results in Milbus, which in turn generates military interest to remain in power or to control the government. In fact, it perpetuates “the military’s political predatory style”. It serves as a tool for the military to gain “institutional and personal economic influence”, thereby preventing any possibility of pushing them back to the barracks to allow democratic institutions to flourish. The military’s expertise in “violence management” gives a special character and influence to the Milbus economy. This is evident in countries in Latin America, Pakistan, Indonesia or Turkey.

    The military’s predatory style makes its capital “concealed, not recorded as part of the budget, and entails unexplained and questionable transfer of resources from the public to the private sector, especially to individuals or groups of people connected with the armed forces”. Financial autonomy gives the military a sense of superiority over “incompetent civilians”. Milbus activities are not revealed to the public on “national security” grounds.

    External factors also helped Milbus thrive. The US considered the military in many of its client states as “instruments of domestic stability and as partners that were depended upon for achieving US security objectives”. In such countries, the military justifies their encroachment into the economy for guarding national security. The elite in such countries either turns a blind eye to military’s economic interests or tries to join them as “cronies” to derive commercial advantage. International businesses also build corporate partnerships with military-operated business groups, as they dominate the government and can deliver.

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    Ayesha Siddiqa
    Military Inc.: Inside Pakistan’s Military Economy
    Penguin Random House, 2017

    Milbus creates monopolies resulting in market distortions by giving military officers and “cronies” unfair advantages in winning contracts and also by permitting a hidden flow of funds from the public to the private sector. “Such redistributive processes encourage both authoritarianism and clientship”. However this rapacious behaviour also creates tensions to the detriment of the dispossessed.

    Pakistan case studies

    Although no public data were available, the author tried to do case studies of four welfare foundations: the Fauji Foundation, Army Welfare Trust, Shaheen Foundation and Bahria Foundation. These are subsidiaries of defence establishments with diverse business activities like private security firms, corporate enterprises like banks, insurance companies, radio and television channels, fertiliser companies, cement and cereal businesses, bakeries, farms and schools.

    Their activities are not at all transparent. Out of 96 projects run by these foundations, only nine are listed with the Securities and Exchange Commission of Pakistan. In 2005, the Pakistan defence ministry rejected their parliament’s call to enquire into the “under-sale” of a sugar mill by Fauji Foundation.

    Milbus grew stealthily in Pakistan from 1953-54 onwards, with the military’s creeping influence. But it was only after the third martial law in 1977 that its shape was seen in public. Martial law was first proclaimed in 1958, political instability contributed to its rise. Since 1947, Pakistan was ruled directly by the military for 17 years (1956-62, 1969-71, 1977-85 and 1999-2002). It had an elected government under a military president for 15 years (1962-69, 1985-88, and 2002-07). For ten years (1988-99), it had an elected government with a civilian president but under influence of the troika. For 21 years it was under the supremacy of “non-parliamentary forces” under a formal parliamentary rule (1947-59 & 2007-16). Civilian rule was only for six years (1971-77). This shows why Pakistan has struggled to entrench democratic accountability compared to India, which had unbroken parliamentary rule from 1947, except 21 months of Emergency under a civilian ruler with no role for the military.

    The author laments that the civilian elite also had an active role to play in propelling the military to prominence, as they used it as a political force multiplier without realising that “the military would gain wings of its own”. She blames Pakistan’s initial civilian leadership for this, since the military was allowed to initiate a major operation (against India) without civilian control, which propelled the army into significance. She quotes Brigadier (retired) A.R. Siddiqui, a noted Pakistani author, who had said that the use of tribals to take control of Kashmir was the first reason for turning Pakistan into a military-dominated state. A strengthened military under General Zia ul-Haq asserted its supremacy by introducing Article 58(2)(b), which empowered the president to dismiss elected governments.

    Post-Musharraf situation

    In her 2017 edition, the author adds that the military have now shown clever resilience to the new wave of democratic transformation under foreign pressure. However in that process it has also become stronger. The army felt that it would be better to allow a civilian government to run the day-to-day affairs, take responsibility for policies made by the generals and face the international community. In that way, “a military led government was replaced by a military led governance system in which the Army GHQ controlled strategic affairs”. This is also because the military’s “core constituency” of mid-ranking officials was upset with Musharraf’s needless excesses like humiliating Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry. The author quotes Hein Kiessling, who told her a sensational story about how Musharraf’s resignation was forcibly extracted by Army Chief Ashfaq Kayani who kept him “under a brief, forced detention”. She says that this was never reported publicly. (I had reviewed Hein Kiessling’s book on the ISI, Faith, Unity, Discipline

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    Ayesha Siddiqa. Credit: Wikimedia Commons

    The army is careful to avoid the kind coup attempt that took place in Turkey due to general discontent among the officer cadre which was brewing under Musharraf’s rule. Musharraf’s pro-India stance on Kashmir was resented by middle-level officers who firmly believe that “opposing India is not just a policy but is the country’s and the military’s raison d’etre”. She quotes Riaz Khokhar that Musharraf’s three-star generals did not support him on his Kashmir policy. The author hints that the lawyers’ agitation was contrived by the military to ease Musharraf out of power.


    By 2016, the Milbus in Pakistan “seemed unstoppable” since the army was perceived as the only credible national institution for guarding national security, fighting terrorism and intervening domestically to be a “counterweight to the corrupt, unaccountable and inefficient image of the political class”. This has boosted the army’s media image. This was also because “all political, religious and ethnic parties have over the years developed a dependency on the military”.


    Now, let discuss this subject in details.
     
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  9. Umair Nawaz

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    oh u dont have to tell us mister we already know, but good thing is that we are relaxed about it, because we already know, we have an independent judiciary in place, who does look into all matters relating to misuse of public rights, and ensures our taxes go where they should be....But then the question is are u in any position to point out such things in here, infront of us? given that yr own judiciary is far toothless against yr powerful oligarchs be it Rajiv Ambani's rafael scandal, Panama Papers corruption prosecution or even giving basic justice to helpless minorities like in Babri Masjid saga?

    Wont that be very good for yrself and for the future of yr children if u use all this stamina and energy to secure their and yr future by making yr country a better and more equal state to live where yr tax money is secured and is used for yr upliftment rather then in the pockets of Oligarchs like the world's second riches man Rajiv Ambani and countless people like him named in various scandals in the past in your country like Panama Papers?
     
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    Lmao this loser now has to quote ayesha Siddique when he has been bitch slapped about Indian army truth .. Tsk Tsk Tsk
     
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    Good question
    open another thread for Knowing the reason
     
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    Exactly. Now the important question is, this CJ is retiring on the 18th, and after making some noises willpass away in history. But who will give justice to those affected by the malpractices of the DHA?
     
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    Isn't dha run by pension fund?
     
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    The issue is neither new or something in which the Court can do much. Earlier too, such an observation has been raised.

    I quote:

    In Rawalpindi, for instance, provincial government functionaries did try to object to the grant of land on which the DHA is built. They argued that it was marked for a dam, but were unable to mount any serious challenge to the army’s bid to obtain the land for its property developer.

    source: https://www.dawn.com/news/1204764


    Probably he was reacting to the list of commercial ventures as undermentioned:

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1272211


    My query, are the entities taxed at the standard rates of Corporate Taxes or are they given rebates under 'Foundation' tag?
     
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