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I just noticed that Mr Munje downed 2 jets and reasons seems pilot error. I wonder if they gave him a third jet to fly.

Wg Cdr Siddharth Vishwas Munje
30 Apr 09: pilot inadvertantly switched
14 Oct 14: Premature Ejection on approach
 

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The Indian Air Force (IAF) ranked 4th is one of the largest in the world both in quantity of aircraft and personal. After Independence in 1947, it had been in confrontation with much smaller Pakistan Air Force (PAF), which is said to be one third the size of the IAF. But despite enjoying an overwhelming advantage, the IAF has a very poor and even depressing record against the PAF. Historians and defence analyst acknowledge that the IAF has never been able to deliver in it's history except perhaps during the Kargil conflict when it conducted operations within it's own side of LOC over a well demarcated area and obviously no air opposition.
Let's analyse the IAF's performance during it's conflict and skirmishes against the PAF.

1: On 4 November 1948, two IAF Hawker Tempest fighter aircraft attacked a PAF Dakota transport aircraft on supply missions, they repeatedly attacked the slow aircraft for 25 minutes but failed to shoot it down due to superior handling by the PAF pilot.

2: 10th April 1959 was a Red letter day in the history of PAF as an IAF Canberra reconnaissance aircraft intruded into Pakistan air space on Eid Day, thinking the PAF along with rest of Pakistan will be in festive mood and relaxing, however it was intercepted by a PAF F-86 Sabre who put around 1200 bullets into the Indian aircraft sending it spiralling out of control with it's crew later being captured.

3: 24 June 1965, an Ouragan Fighter/Bomber called Toofani by the IAF, strays into Pakistan and is intercepted and forced down by PAF fighters. Later the IAF aircraft is found to be fully armed.

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1965 War.

On September 1, 1965, the IAF launched its first strikes against a Pakistani invasion at Chhamb, near Jammu. 12 Vampires and 14 Mystere fighter-bombers were thrown in, which began shooting up Indian tanks from 20 Lancers, which was opposing the Pakistani advance. Twenty Lancers officers recount their relief when the PAF Sabres swooped down on the IAF, shooting down four Vampires. A shocked IAF grounded its Vampire and Toofani squadrons, reducing its strength by one-third.

3rd September : Perhaps first time in aerial warfare history, an IAF pilot air surrenders his Gnat fighter jet when confronted by a PAF F-104, and lands his aircraft in Pakistan, today the Gnat is preserved and displayed in PAF Museum.

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PAF’s air strike on 6th September, 1965 on the Indian Air Force base of Pathankot has been rated by historians and defence analysts of both Indian and Pakistan as one of the most successful air raids of contemporary history. Over a dozen IAF aircraft including several MiG-21s were destroyed on the ground.


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September 7 saw a debacle in the eastern theatre, where the PAF had only a single squadron of Sabres. Early morning IAF raids on Chittagong and Jessore achieved nothing. However, a retaliatory PAF raid devastated the IAF's Kalaikunda base, in West Bengal, destroying 14 aircraft on the ground mostly Canberra bombers thus PAF squadron earning nick name of ''Tail Choppers''.
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Also on 7th September the IAF tried to strike back on PAF bases and in due course PAF saw it's first Ace when one of it's pilot shot down five IAF Hunters in a single sortie.

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1971 Air War.

During this war, the PAF had one single squadron of F-86 Sabres, stationed in East Pakistan. This single PAF unit faced Ten IAF squadrons, three of which were equipped with the latest MiG-21s while others had SU-7, Hunters, Gnats as well as bombers on strength. The single PAF squadron was grounded within few days of war due to it's single runway being damaged. Before being grounded, No 14 squadron PAF in aerial engagements, shot down 11 IAF aircraft for the loss of five of it's own. However what is astonishing is that in subsequent two weeks of non stop raids on the PAF airfield, , the IAF failed to destroy even a single grounded Sabre but in process lost 17 more aircraft to Pakistani ground fire.

Last Air Battle of 1971 War.
The last air battle of 1971 war between PAF and IAF took place on 17th December. The encounter involved a humble PAF F-86 Sabre against a Supersonic MIG-21 of the IAF.
Flt Lt. Maqsood Amir emerged the victorious pilot when he shot down the MIG-21, No C 116 through a missile attack.
The Indian pilot was captured after ejecting from his stricken aircraft.

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To Be Continued......
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I published Urdu translation of your beautiful post on the Urdu section of my website. The positive purpose of this is to make the Urdu readers of my homeland read this unique golden history of our Pakistan Air Force and be proud of their forces.

I hope that my purposeful effort will not be considered as a violation of the rules of this prime forum.

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Dear Sir
I published Urdu translation of your beautiful post on the Urdu section of my website. The positive purpose of this is to make the Urdu readers of my homeland read this unique golden history of our Pakistan Air Force and be proud of their forces.

I hope that my purposeful effort will not be considered as a violation of the rules of this prime forum.

Regards

Not at all, in fact a very thoughtful initiative by you.
Any addition here will also be much appreciated.
 
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Before being grounded, No 14 squadron PAF in aerial engagements, shot down 11 IAF aircraft for the loss of five of it's own.
Lol.
Fake news busted by your own Kaiser Tufail.
PAF No 14 sqn managed to shoot only 3 or 4 IAF jets at most
At least three enemy aircraft (and possibly four) were downed by No 14 Squadron pilots

No 14 sqn has the ignominy of being the only air force sqn in south asian history of being completely neutralized by adversary (5 shot down and rest 13 captured) with 8 captured ones returning to BAF service.
 

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Lol.
Fake news busted by your own Kaiser Tufail.
PAF No 14 sqn managed to shoot only 3 or 4 IAF jets at most


No 14 sqn has the ignominy of being the only air force sqn in south asian history of being completely neutralized by adversary (5 shot down and rest 13 captured) with 8 captured ones returning to BAF service.
Listen Multi ID stray.......your incompetent IAF was unable to destroy even a single grounded Sabre.....despite two weeks of non stop attacks including night bombing raids by a converted Caribou transport.
 

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India has never really used its air power effectively to devastating effect like eg Israelis in modern times or USA and indeed the europeans & japanease in WW2 .

Hopefully with addition of new systems like Rafale , S400 sams and more EW/AWACS assets combined with more overseas training /doctrine sharing like red flag and with French & Raf india can better utilise its obvious large air power to better effect a conflict should it arise.

On a better note Indian recent rapid deployment of air assets in East to checkmate china was impressive and swift and averted a full scale war imo
 

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India has never really used its air power effectively to devastating effect like eg Israelis in modern times or USA and indeed the europeans & japanease in WW2 .

Hopefully with addition of new systems like Rafale , S400 sams and more EW/AWACS assets combined with more overseas training /doctrine sharing like red flag and with French & Raf india can better utilise its obvious large air power to better effect a conflict should it arise.

On a better note Indian recent rapid deployment of air assets in East to checkmate china was impressive and swift and averted a full scale war imo
My Dear

Stop dreaming too much, they are not good for health. When India already had three times the size of the Air Force and double-powered aircraft. Which Pearl Harbor brand deed was done by India then?
 

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India has never really used its air power effectively to devastating effect like eg Israelis in modern times or USA and indeed the europeans & japanease in WW2 .

Hopefully with addition of new systems like Rafale , S400 sams and more EW/AWACS assets combined with more overseas training /doctrine sharing like red flag and with French & Raf india can better utilise its obvious large air power to better effect a conflict should it arise.

On a better note Indian recent rapid deployment of air assets in East to checkmate china was impressive and swift and averted a full scale war imo
Checkmate....impressive...swift.....mighty tall words for self satisfaction.
Actually, after 20 Indian soldiers were clubbed to death , the onus was on India to start the conflict or seek revenge .....but this time not even a fake surgical strike as was the case after the Pulwama incident.
 

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I just noticed that Mr Munje downed 2 jets and reasons seems pilot error. I wonder if they gave him a third jet to fly.

Wg Cdr Siddharth Vishwas Munje
30 Apr 09: pilot inadvertantly switched
14 Oct 14: Premature Ejection on approach
He is no longer with the IAF, looks like he was "retired".
 

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