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Dawn: an anti-Pakistan newspaper ?

Discussion in 'Pakistan's Internal Security' started by sabena siddiqi, Apr 6, 2015.

  1. I.R.A

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    Why are we reactive than proactive? Majority of us follow a faith whose Prophet (PBUH) advised don't just believe whatever is told to you unless you make sure yourself its right and correct, but still we act as zombies from 7:00 pm in the evening till 11:00 pm (PST) and believe whatever they say in those talk shows. We have the nicest emotional slogans, but we don't have the actions to support these slogans. We wrote the nicest emotional song but that filth of the earth Mullah Radio is still walking the earth.

    For you (may be) it is a war limited to your borders only, for me I believe this war is not against Pakistan it is against Islam and in that bigger picture I find Pakistanis to be the least prepared. Sunni musalman hain sunni sunai pay yaqeen rakhty hain. You will find supporters of agendas against Islam in our very own midst with the beards and piousness you have never seen. And in that bigger scheme of things Dawn or any media outlet is just a pawn, it has to play its part and it will, but what preparedness is yours to counter this propaganda? Islam ka jitna mazak hum Musalmano nay khud bnaya hai itna to shayad dushman soch bhi na sakta tha aur Pakistani Musalmano say bara to koi Musalman hai he nai.

    And let me say it once and for all honestly and clearly, their bombs don't differentiate between Sunnis and Shias, that they have left for us to do ourselves and we are very good at doing this.

    We still have time to understand and realise the bigger picture, otherwise events will unfold as they are supposed to and I have no doubt in that. World has to divide in two clear groups and it will and it depends on us which group we want to belong to. Why are we reactive than proactive?
     
  2. Irfan Baloch

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    @sabena siddiqi
    Dawn's articles are a PoV of its writers, nothing more nothing less. re military courts , give it as much authenticity as much the tears coming out of Senator Raza Rabbani in his speech after the amendment about military courts.

    back in the days it used to host Kamran Shafi the disgraced ex army officer who was kicked out of the army who is in the forefront of maligning the Pakistan army and was very active and vocal during the Docile Kyani time. in principle there are some genuine concerns that there is some miscarriage of justice towards the accused and they might not enjoy the same level of legal cover or benefit of doubt as in normal court and some accused who have shot our kids in the eyes, have executed Hazara's on the road side or played football with the skulls of the soldiers might get a swift punishment by the military judges who are not even mentioned.

    I mean I get the writers that why no accused is named, why his location is not disclosed and why the number of guards and rota of the prison guards not explained? why the names of the judges along with their family members and their homes not disclosed? it must be because army is trying to hide something and prevent the natural course of action which the supporters of the defendants might take?
     
  3. I.R.A

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    Better if a listing of all this is shown on TV daily. And addresses of schools were their harmless kids go for education would be a bonus.
     
  4. Irfan Baloch

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    some of its articles both for and against are high quality there is no doubt.
    my only issue is with those that are actually written by some people that are running a smear campaign and are openly known benefactors of foreign aid and their niyat is harami one example is Kamran shafi

    . apart from that people like NFP and dawns own staff are exceptional writers and I like their posts whether or not they are against the state (read Pak military).
     
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    If you plan on curtailing freedom of speech, where do you draw the line? I believe no institution should be above critique, that includes Pak Army.
     
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    "Mader Piadar Azadi" should not be given to any media outfit. Red lines should be drawn.
     
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    War is definitely against islam. But against pakistan is a part of that whole game. I wont shun the fact that muslims have their faults and flaws too that brought upon us what came. But looking at one aspect of problem never means one should overlook all other aspects. And media has always remained and played a lethal part which needs to be looked into. And just look at it this way, you find something anti pak, you will ignore and move on but other countryfellas who wil be reading and getting brainwashed and acting like zombie following the agenda spewed.
    You @Color_Less_Sky bahi , and many others may or may not agree but i will repeat its a serious problem needs to be addressed.
    Critcizing army or anyone is fine but if done justly ,and also should be done taking into account current situation.
    Now if at this tme when army is facing bla terrorists and someone like sana saleem writes an article on suicides in balochistan where ppl instantly without thinking point fingers at army what good are you doing.
    but i would repeat Media shouldnt be overlooked.
     
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    Freedom of speech has its limitations. Its alright to criticize military establishment on their decisions, but criticism should not cross the lines of States interests. State institutions have the right to establish State Interests.
     
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    Again just as mullahs are blamed for brainwashing ppl these media houses are also no different and equally lethal with their hypocritical,fascistic, pseudo liberal thinking. They are causing damages close to the far right thinkers.
    And these ppl like nfp, hoodhbhoy are total disgrace.
     
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    Thanks a lot Sir G I knew something was wrong about that Kamran Shafi. By the way why he was kicked out ?
     
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    I used to read Dawn regularly few years back (before joining PDF, and i used to a reader here too)....... I thought they were very good..... their articles were interesting to read....... Is there any truth in OP?
     
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    dawn ...dunia our geo ko india fanding karta ha our nawaz shref ke full sporte ha in ko
     
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    lolz.. aur koi newspaper hai jisse funding chahiye?

    how do you know what is good for country..
    as an editor you allow what you believe to be true..
    should watergate been hidden from the world?
     
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    lol phala in ka tu hasiab ho jay jo ho jay ga dhara dhara:o:
     
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    NOTHING wrong with Dawn.

    Media is supposed to present all kinds of view points and let the readers, audience, listeners to decide or think about taking it or rejecting it.


    Nothing wrong with analysing death penality and its affects

    Nothing wrong with questioning if Pakistan is really a Muslim country?

    Nothing wrong with publishing view point of Hussain haqqani. everyone knows his so-called credibility so we should NOT be worried if this will harm us in big way. Readers are very wise these days so let them decide what should be bought and what should be rejected.

    and you and me are nobody to decide what is suitable for Dawn and what is not. Every newspaper has own editorial policy which it follows.