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No doubt Rafale is a beautiful and capable fighter. But 36 for a country the size of India is such a joke.
It is not enough that's for sure. But it will be used in conjunction with the Mirage-2000Is, Su-30MKIs and in the future Tejas Mk1 and Mk1As as the tip of the spear.

But rest assured, this will not be the last Rafale order placed by the IAF, that much is for sure.
 

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It is not enough that's for sure. But it will be used in conjunction with the Mirage-2000Is, Su-30MKIs and in the future Tejas Mk1 and Mk1As as the tip of the spear.

But rest assured, this will not be the last Rafale order placed by the IAF, that much is for sure.
Given the current climate it would be hard to claim anything is "for sure". IAF's Mirage 2000 and MIG-29 buys stayed at a very modest number, and seeing that this year may well be the second year in a row of negative growth, if any follow on order is placed it may be years from now, and that is a big if as it will be the same time IAF has to commit to LCA MK2 and AMCA.
 

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Given the current climate it would be hard to claim anything is "for sure". IAF's Mirage 2000 and MIG-29 buys stayed at a very modest number, and seeing that this year may well be the second year in a row of negative growth, if any follow on order is placed it may be years from now, and that is a big if as it will be the same time IAF has to commit to LCA MK2 and AMCA.

You cou;ld not be further from the Truth if you tried

The second order of rafale is very much on the cards either as the

1. Winner of 114 mmrca order OR
2. cancel of MMRCA order above and smaller order of 36 or slightly more Rafales GTG deal.

Looking at how India has paid for two air bases capable of handing 40 Rafales each the likely hood ids that once F4 version enters service in France IAF will sign for 36 to 40 more rafales in 2022-2023 timeframe

You comment re its fan boy ilusions is again far off the mark since both HAL Dassult and French prime minster are all pushing IAF to order next batch. ITS almost a forgone conclusion

 

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You living in reality? India will see negative growth for second year in a row this year due to Covid. You are literally throwing your mothers and daughters into rivers full of faeces due to this. Half the country is in lockdown, your last budget barely covered payments for the last lot of equipment. You are now so beyond f**ked that the light from f**ked will take a million years to reach you.

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Hey Covid has hit India hard . Infact very hard .......... But dont get so dramatic ...........
It will get better im sure .
Yes one million are dead possibly 2 or 3 million BUT india is not pakistan with tiny resources or a african country .
It has very large resources relative to most nations .
Poor will die
And Covid will continue for another one year
But please spare us the the end of the world saga

They still have 580 billion in forex alone ........... YES that was nearly 600 billion dollars
So they can cope

As for Rafale this wll be signed next 12- 18 months with delivery starting 2025-2026 at earlirest

Now please dont tell me will be still in COVID then
 

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You living in reality? India will see negative growth for second year in a row this year due to Covid. You are literally throwing your mothers and daughters into rivers full of faeces due to this. Half the country is in lockdown, your last budget barely covered payments for the last lot of equipment. You are now so beyond f**ked that the light from f**ked will take a million years to reach you.

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I hate bursting your bubble
But your so biased its laughable
India is in covid disaster BUT guess what still top 6 GDP on the planet
THINK what may happen if no pandemic
 

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No doubt Rafale is a beautiful and capable fighter. But 36 for a country the size of India is such a joke.
This is just a first order,

Every Indian purchase has been in batches.

" In 1996 India signed a US$1.462 billion deal with Sukhoi for 50 Russian-produced Su-30MKIs in five batches. The first batch were eight Su-30MKs, the basic version of Su-30. The second batch were to be 10 Su-30MKIs with French and Israeli avionics. The third batch were to be 10 Su-30MKIs featuring canard foreplanes. The fourth batch of 12 Su-30MKIs and final batch of 10 Su-30MKIs were to have the AL-31FP turbofans.
In October 2000, a memorandum of understanding (MoU) was signed for Indian licence-production of 140 Su-30MKIs; in December 2000, a deal was sealed at Russia's Irkutsk aircraft plant for full technology transfer.

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Expecting at least 3 more squadrons.
 

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I hate bursting your bubble
But your so biased its laughable
India is in covid disaster BUT guess what still top 6 GDP on the planet
THINK what may happen if no pandemic
No bias, last jets are being delivered, 6 years since first order and India is now a dirty word when it comes to Covid.

Best you post when new jets are ordered else everything else is like "Tejas MK II this year", "201 Arjuns in service", and all the other BS you posted.
This is just a first order,

Every Indian purchase has been in batches.

" In 1996 India signed a US$1.462 billion deal with Sukhoi for 50 Russian-produced Su-30MKIs in five batches. The first batch were eight Su-30MKs, the basic version of Su-30. The second batch were to be 10 Su-30MKIs with French and Israeli avionics. The third batch were to be 10 Su-30MKIs featuring canard foreplanes. The fourth batch of 12 Su-30MKIs and final batch of 10 Su-30MKIs were to have the AL-31FP turbofans.
In October 2000, a memorandum of understanding (MoU) was signed for Indian licence-production of 140 Su-30MKIs; in December 2000, a deal was sealed at Russia's Irkutsk aircraft plant for full technology transfer.

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Expecting at least 3 more squadrons.
Calm down, even Mirage 2000 you claim to love so much was never over 60 planes, same with MIG-29. Now India is going through it's worst economic period in 40 years and you think you can spend another $4 -$5 billion?
 

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No bias, last jets are being delivered, 6 years since first order and India is now a dirty word when it comes to Covid.

Best you post when new jets are ordered else everything else is like "Tejas MK II this year", "201 Arjuns in service", and all the other BS you posted.


Calm down, even Mirage 2000 you claim to love so much was never over 60 planes, same with MIG-29. Now India is going through it's worst economic period in 40 years and you think you can spend another $4 -$5 billion?
you Pakistanis are dreaming of 5th gen fighters and j10 and f16 on one tenth of indian resources.
i guess that is ok it's a Pakistani forum.
but when the 6th strongest economy suggests buying another second batch of existing fighters it not possible according to yasser they can't afford it despite having 100.times that in forex and the,deal.likely not coming until 2022 .
hey what about pandemic
it's global.buddy not just indian
 

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you Pakistanis are dreaming of 5th gen fighters and j10 and f16 on one tenth of indian resources.
i guess that is ok it's a Pakistani forum.
but when the 6th strongest economy suggests buying another second batch of existing fighters it not possible according to yasser they can't afford it despite having 100.times that in forex and the,deal.likely not coming until 2022 .
hey what about pandemic
it's global.buddy not just indian
Please, usual ploy of "what about Pakistan" fools no one. Order more Rafs then talk.

No new second line of subs

No new third carrier

No new fighters for Navy

No new MMRCA

No new Medium transport replacement

No new AWACS

No new refullers

Please, no one is fooled anymore. Pray for your dead bodies in Ganges not $100 million jet fighters.
 

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Please, usual ploy of "what about Pakistan" fools no one. Order more Rafs then talk.

No new second line of subs

No new third carrier

No new fighters for Navy

No new MMRCA

No new Medium transport replacement

No new AWACS

No new refullers

Please, no one is fooled anymore. Pray for your dead bodies in Ganges not $100 million jet fighters.
you reek of insecurity and bias.
pandemic has hit.the world even in Europe we have,struggled especially itlay France last year usa and Brazil too..
China,and pakistan and African countrys you hide the real numbers,
this,has not stopped you buying 30 thunders from.china block 3 by 2025.
defense goes,on
 

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Calm down, even Mirage 2000 you claim to love so much was never over 60 planes, same with MIG-29. Now India is going through it's worst economic period in 40 years and you think you can spend another $4 -$5 billion?
If this lie makes you sleep at night,it's fine but in reality we currently have 600 billion USD, more than twice your entire GDP in forex.
We are growing in double digits, even after Covid their is no national lockdown this year,the only reason GDP growth was negative last year.
We have more than enough money to purchase not 3 but 10 squadrons if needed.

Mirage had different roles ,Rafale will have followon orders once the current 36 are completely delivered.
 

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Please, usual ploy of "what about Pakistan" fools no one. Order more Rafs then talk.

No new second line of subs

No new third carrier

No new fighters for Navy

No new MMRCA

No new Medium transport replacement

No new AWACS

No new refullers

Please, no one is fooled anymore. Pray for your dead bodies in Ganges not $100 million jet fighters.
the,threads was about Rafale yasser.
love the way.you derail the topic to dead bodies and a,3rd carrier.
stick to the topic buddy stop your trolling.
21 rafales are here already and 15.to arrive by end of this year.
by the way s400 arrives in November first regiment. no doubt you will wish to comment on this I'm sure.
Romeo helicopters have started,to arrive the last of 6 scorpene late.this year.
Tejas deployed,on pak border with user trials,of python 5 and Derby finished . Astra testing started.
usa,engines, arrived,for tejas,mark 2

my point there's,a lot happening despite the gloom.of covid and we,are paying in cash not giving away land and ports ... wink wink
 

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If this lie makes you sleep at night,it's fine but in reality we currently have 600 billion USD, more than twice your entire GDP in forex.
We are growing in double digits, even after Covid their is no national lockdown this year,the only reason GDP growth was negative last year.
We have more than enough money to purchase not 3 but 10 squadrons if needed.

Mirage had different roles ,Rafale will have followon orders once the current 36 are completely delivered.
Ignore the troll. Nothing he says makes a whit of a difference out there in the real world..he can live in his fantasy world.
 

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Ignore the troll. Nothing he says makes a whit of a difference out there in the real world..he can live in his fantasy world.

Fantasy? You are literally talking about an additional order that

1) Does not exist
2) No major non Indian defence outlet has even reported as a possibility recently
3) Worst Indian economic crisis in 40 years.

All three of the above are FACTS.

Now go on talking about non existent orders.....
you reek of insecurity and bias.
pandemic has hit.the world even in Europe we have,struggled especially itlay France last year usa and Brazil too..
China,and pakistan and African countrys you hide the real numbers,
this,has not stopped you buying 30 thunders from.china block 3 by 2025.
defense goes,on
Were you not banned dude? How did you get back in? :-)
 

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