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  1. niaz

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    I repeat my assertion that it is only the Pakistanis who worry about similarity in names and imagined connections. It would never occur to an Arab because there is in fact no connection. ISIS or ISIL is short form of its name when translated in English. ISIS/ISIL people don’t call their state ISIS. They speak Arabic and its name in Arabic is:

    “Al Dawala al Isalmiya fi al Iraq wa al Sham” you see there is no connection to the Egyptian goddess.

    Besides, Isis was the name given by the Greeks to an Egyptian goddess. Closest actual pronunciation would be ‘Iset'. Arabic name is probably Al Uzza.

    My English is not very good and hence I failed to put my point across. Inconvenience is regretted.
     
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    how ? Sending killer commandos to their houses at night and give them a noiseless bullet ?
     
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    You need a different kind of government in Islamabad first of all , unfortunately. You need someone like Quaid e Azam . His untimely death was the greatest tragedy in Pakistan's history.
     
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    The problem is, that the radicals threat everyone by death, inlcuding this government, so what kind of government do you wish ? If no government has a chance without get involved in direct and inderect clash with the hardliners ?

    "we are able to derail the government whenever we want,”: Fazl tells Sana

    http://www.dawn.com/news/1243017
     
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    Who do you think can derail the government whenever they want ? Look back history and you will find the answer. Only one quarter in Pakistan has such power but you can not say their name. They had no power when Quid e Azam was alive.
     
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    You mean the Pakistan Army ? It cant do anything without the support of the pakistani folk, situation has now changed massive, the power of the hardliners in every city and village cant be ignored and underestimated anymore, the hardliners have made the governance ragarding law and order situation for any government civil and military very difficult. Do think the hardliners would not have marched for qadri, if we would have a military dictatorship ?
     
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    What is popular may not be right and what is right may not be popular. Someone needs to do the right thing in the long run to save Pakistan.
     
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    to save from who and what, care to elaborate ?
     
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    deash-those who sow discord among the muslim ummah and their motto is death and destruction.
     
  10. FalconsForPeace

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    ISIS men among 7 held in Multan, Sialkot raids

    The provincial counter terrorism department Tuesday claimed to have arrested seven terrorists including three members of the so-called Islamic State terror group.



    A Punjab CTD official yesterday told The Nation that the raids were conducted on a tip-off in Multan and Sialkot districts during the last 24 hours. All the seven terror suspects were shifted to an unknown location for further investigation.

    The arrested militants were plotting gun and bomb attacks on shrines, religious processions and the government installations, the official said. The counter terror operatives also seized huge cache of explosive material and firearms from their possession.

    The arrests come as the law enforcement agencies mounted one of the biggest security operations in the Punjab province ahead of Eid Miladun Nabi (PBUH). The day was celebrated across the country on Monday with traditional zeal and fervour.

    A spokesperson for the Punjab CTD said the special teams of CTD raided the places in Multan and Sialkot districts as they received credible and actionable intelligence from secret sources.

    First, a CTD team of Gujranwala region raided a place near Sunaronwala Bridge, Eminabad Road Sialkot, on Monday afternoon and arrested three terrorists. They were identified by CTD police as Amir, Waqas and Abdul Jabbar.

    “The CTD had information that three terrorists Amir, Waqas and Abdul Jabbar of proscribed organisation ISIS were planning to attack some shrines or Eid Milad procession in city area of Sialkot,” the spokesperson said. “Upon this information, the CTD team raided the place and arrested the suspects.”

    During the raid, the CTD team also seized 1475-gram explosive material, 8.3 inches safety fuse and three detonators from their possession. According to officials, Amir Ali alias Haider Ali and Abdul Jabbar belonged to Chandowal village of district Narowal. Similarly, Waqas Arshad is said to be resident of Amir Singh, Sheikhupura. The suspects were shifted to an unknown facility for interrogation.

    Initial investigation suggested the terror suspects were involved in targeted killings, according to the CTD spokesperson. A case was filed against the suspects with the Gujranwala CTD police station.

    Separately, another CTD team conducted the raid in Multan district. The CTD Multan got credible information from a secret source that terrorists belonging to Tehrik-Taliban Pakistan had come to Multan to launch attacks on sensitive installations and offices of law enforcement agencies. On this information, a CTD team raided a place near Oil Depot, Sher Shah, in Multan and arrested four terrorists, the spokesperson said.

    The terror suspects were named by CTD as Sailab Khan, Akbar Khan, Ikram Khan and Usman. The officials also recovered two suicide jackets, one rifle SMG, two pistols and several bullets from their possession. The suspects were shifted to a facility for further interrogation.

    A criminal case under section (7 ATA, 4/5 ESA) was registered with the Multan CTD police station yesterday. Further investigation was underway.

    Senior officials routinely deny the presence of the Middle-East based terror group in Pakistan but several members of the outfit have been arrested in recent months from different parts of the country.

    In mid September, four members of the self-styled Islamic State group were arrested during an operation in Lahore’s Iqbal Town. Two weeks later, another four members of the self-styled Islamic State group were arrested during a raid near the Multan Railway Station.

    The latest arrests come months after Pakistan Army declared that it had foiled Islamic State’s attempts to establish operations in the country. According to the military spokesman, they had arrested more than 300 militants and their sympathisers including 20 core organisers during the countrywide operations.

    Last month, the self-styled terror group claimed responsibility for the suicide bombing on Shah Noorani Sufi shrine in the Balochistan province.

    More than 50 people were killed and 100 others wounded when a teenager blew himself up among the people during traditional dance at the shrine.

    In early August, Jamaatul Ahrar, an offshoot of the Pakistani Taliban having links with ISIS, claimed the responsibility for the attack on lawyers and journalists in Quetta.

    More than 70 people mostly lawyers died in the horrific blast that ripped through the emergency ward of the civil hospital. The same group was behind the deadliest attack in the country so far this year; the suicide attack in a crowded Lahore park that killed 75 people on Easter Sunday in March.
    http://nation.com.pk/newspaper-picks/14-Dec-2016/isis-men-among-7-held-in-multan-sialkot-raids
     
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    On a note related to internal security, I'd like to remind our members, especially ones who have access to privileged information to avoid sharing sensitive information on these forums. These forums are constantly trawled by people with nefarious designs, and also Indian trolls.

    One example that comes to mind was in 2015, someone announced that Defence Day Parade would be held way before it was official announced. This sort of information can be used by the wrong people
     
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    These bastards should be flayed alive.
     
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    In case any of you are yet unaware of ISIS' origins; ISIS is literally just a renaming of AQI (Al Qaeda in Iraq) which was named Jabhat al Nusra by its leader Ayman al Zawahiri in 2012 or 2013 to wage its war in the Levant. Jabhat al Nusra experienced a split in 2013 between the Syrian faction led by al Julani and the Iraqi one which Baghdadi named ISIS.

    Also, this document from the DIA in the Department of Defense procured via a FOIA lawsuit by JudicialWatch back in 2012 had actually outlined the rise of ISIS years before its famous capture of Mosul in 2014. Aside from emphatically busting the myth of a 'moderate rebellion' by stating that the West and its regional allies were supporting AQI and Muslim Brotherhood dominated sectarian rebels, it also kind of let loose the reality on how planned ISIS' campaign was. Just as the document declared 2 years before ISIS entry onto the world stage, ISIS entered into Syria from Deir ez Zor and sought to establish a Caliphate or 'Salafist Principality' along the Iraqi-Syrian border.