• Thursday, July 16, 2020

Corps Comds’ Conf held today at GHQ

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  1. ASKardar

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    I just hope everything is going under plan!
     
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    The first preview of its kind in the entire world in which the chiefs of all forces gathered in ISI headquarters. Never see such type of meeting trend in 2008 LoC or Feb 2019. something big is coming.
     
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    So corps commanders are briefed and taken into confidence regarding yesterday's meeting.
     
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    The current deadly military clashes between the Indians and Chinese at Ladakh and other Indian occupied areas have surprised many of us. But, given the consistently aggressive, expansionist, and illegal actions by extremist Hindus-lead Modi government, these clashes are certainly not entirely unexpected. In fact, India has followed a well calibrated policy of gaining prolonged time under lame excuses and using that time to slowly but steadily taming down Kashmiri resistance and changing the status of Indian occupied sate of J&K. Indians slowly reduced the role of UN military observers deployed on their side of the LOC and then removed them (even though they are still deployed on Pakistani side) in an attempt to change the natures of the dispute from international to bilateral one and then finally to start calling it an internal Indian matter. By doing so, Indians were effectively renegading on all their promises made at the UN to the people of occupied J&K and the world community at large. In parallel, Indian government followed a well-planed strategy for removing the resentment in the people of occupied land by using strategies of stick and carrot, divide and conquer, and discrediting the freedom struggle by labeling it as terrorism. After Modi became the Indian prime minister, that well calibrated policy was replaced with a fascist approach to kill and crush the freedom struggle by using brutal force of more than 700,000 personnel. On 5 August 2019, Modi government also revoked the Indian constitution's article 370 that gave a special status to the state as a lollypop due to its disputed and sensitive nature. Modi took that action while completely failing in comprehending its far-reaching legal, political, and geostrategic consequences.

    By unilaterally changing the status of a disputed territory, which is claimed by multiple parties, Modi government not only completely turned rogue on the UN resolutions but also, and more importantly so, effectively backed out of multiple bilateral agreements that India had signed with Pakistan and China in the past. In other words, Indians have effectively nullified the India-China agreement of 1993 that actually defined the Line of Actual Control (LAC). Similarly, by revoking the article 370, dividing the occupied state of J&K into multiple regions, and then making them a regular part of India, Modi has reneged on multiple agreements with Pakistan too, thus, rendering the LOC non-existent. The Modi gang probably planned for keeping the best of both sides (of bigotry and agreements) by expecting China and Pakistan to keep the 'sanctity' of LAC and LOC while India formally declares the disputed territory as its part. Only brainless idiots could think of that.

    Emboldened by any effective opposition to unilateral Indian actions, Modi and his gang of fascist Hindu fanatics then embarked on a rather bigger misadventure of challenging the combined power of China and Pakistan by occupying Pakistan's northern areas of Gilgit-Baltistan and militarily disrupting CPEC route. Indians have been building the required military infrastructure over the past several years and now the final stage was fast approaching after formally annexing the occupied state of J&K. Their plan probably was to occupy the target areas before the harsh winter season sets in so that any counter attack by Pakistan and China would practically be impossible. Indians also had big plans to ignite and fuel an insurgency in certain Chinese provinces after getting hold of Gilgit-Baltistan area. Chinese have not only effectively pre-empted the Indian move but also turned the tables on Indians by roping in Nepal on their side too. On top of that scores of Indian soldiers are getting killed by Chinese. Modi is in desperate need of action to save his 56" chest image built painstakingly among Indian masses. Any action, however, will bring more humiliation to Indian military and Modi. Repeated Indian requests to Chinese for their withdrawal from the 'Indian areas' haven't paid off so far either. The extent of Modi's humiliation can be gauged by the fact that not even a single statement from any world power (or even a small country) in Modi's support has come out.

    Regardless of what Indians claim, the disputed territory is still a disputed one. If anything, Modi's expansionist and illegal actions have rendered India’s bilateral agreements with Pakistan and China ineffective, thus, reverting the status of the disputed state back to pre-LAC and pre-LOC era. It is there a totally invalid claim by Indians that Chinese have occupied their land. It is not their land. It is a disputed land. There is no violation of the sanctity of LOC by Chinese because there is legally no LOC in existence anymore. Chinese are now justified to revert back to their pre-LAC claim as spelled out in a letter written by the then Chinese premier, Zhou Enlai, on 7 November 1959 to Jawaharlal Nehru who was then the Indian prime minister. If Indians think that things would go back to pre-revocation of article 370 stage, they will be making a grave miscalculation. Pakistan and China cannot trust Indians anymore. Indians have proved themselves as an untrustworthy rogue nation that can renegade on any bilateral or international agreement, treaty, or instrument without a shame. Indians have followed a heavy-handed approach against their smaller neighboring countries and grown bolder to challenge China too. Now the butcher of Gujrat, Modi, is facing the heat, getting thoroughly humiliated, and tasting an international isolation and disgrace. He is currently struggling on a slippery slope. Modi will certainly issue empty threats to China and Pakistan. But Modi will turn into a pussy cat against China in all likelihood. What is more probable from his stupidity, Modi will indulge in a misadventure against Pakistan. But we all hope that, unlike 27 Fab. 2019, this time there will be no restrain from Pakistani side.
     
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    I don't know what will happen next but I hope pakistan will send reinforcement because India can attack pakistan and take revenge by cutting the highway that connect pakistan with china. It's better to be ready. We can't trust India now. India can do anything but I don't think that India can face China again.to divert public attention and to reduce anger, they will attack pakistan and everyone in India will become happy. Pakistan should prepare to defend herself.
     
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    Looool if you knew the terrain you wouldnt say that. An army that cannot feed itself cannot fight
     
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    Never underestimate your enemy.in order to hurt China,they can attack our highway which connects us from China. India is in no position to face China directly.they are finding ways to avenge it. We shouldn't live in delusion. India is bitter enemy of pakistan and for face saving,they can do anything.
     
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    Bajwa needs to go. Giving 3 years extension to Bajwa is one of many big mistakes that IK has committed. Indeed IK is hopeless.
     
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    please elaborate and also mention what you would want Gen Bajwa to do/ think he should do?
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    Should move some artillery forward. Its high chance that indian willl attack pak for face saving. Better to be prepared, look aggressive, an blood hungry.
     
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    There are many things he can do but no point to mention them again here since many other members already said on this platform.

    In meantime Bajwa is busy in inquiring opposition members's corona health, giving useless speeches of thwarting enemy's design in IOK while practically doing nothing, letting FC's soldiers die in Balochistan etc.
     
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    How can india cut the highway between pak and china. They are dealing with threats from 2 fronts any retaliation will bring havic on them. What they can do is the same they did on 26th. Send some jets at night, drop some bombs and rush back. And at this cruxial time india cannot afford any defeat like 27th. America wants to win and they will not support the losing side. 27th sent enough shockwaves in Washington and if india cannot stand stand tight in front of pak and china, US will be so disappointed.
     
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    I also don't agree with extension but if let say Bajwa would have retired what different would have happened ???

    Any other chief would have done exactly same I can assure you that also
     
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    Which highway? Are you referring to Karakorum Highway? Did you ever bother to have a look at the map? It's not a small operation to cut that highway. Enemy needs to launch a large scale operation to achieve that goal or else it will be a suicidal mission for the enemy. In fact, Modi planned to launch that big operation and preparations were being frantically made for that. Pakistan and China pre-empted that enemy plan. Modi is no more in a position of launching that operation. But he can launch diversionary attacks at multiple places along Pak-India border but the real thrust may come somewhere else. I am sure Pakistan has effective counter plans.

    If you cannot produce/propose any viable action then you better keep quiet. I mean, you cannot even point out a single missing thing that PA should have done, how can you claim its chief is not up to the task? To my understanding QJB is doing great job for Pakistan.

    Extension or no extension, it's none of our business. We don't see full picture and cannot comprehend all factors playing behind. But PA works coherently utilizing collective wisdom. So, policy change would be minimal regardless who sits in the presiding chair. If anything, we need to improve our civilian leadership. Such an inactive, inexperience, and incapable leadership. Allah Raham Karey. Ameen
     
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